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Farage alledging the Reform voter on the Ch4 expose was a paid actor.

 

I was actually thinking yesterday "We should turn all the mosques into Wetherspoons" sounds like something a left wing person thinks a right wing person would say.

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2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Woah.

 

 

I don't really see this as real news. Any Labour leader should only oversee one failed election. I sort of understand Corbyn staying on after the 2017 loss and pointing to the gains made and that he'd only been leader for 2 years at that point, but "gains" don't put food in the mouths of starving kids unless it actually impacts the make-up of the government.

 

We'll see if Starmer uses his victory to do that, I don't really like the "trust that he's lying to you" stance of his left-ish supporters, but Labour impacts policy while in government. The Labour leader should be getting/keeping the party in government.

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23 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

 

I don't really see this as real news. Any Labour leader should only oversee one failed election. I sort of understand Corbyn staying on after the 2017 loss and pointing to the gains made and that he'd only been leader for 2 years at that point, but "gains" don't put food in the mouths of starving kids unless it actually impacts the make-up of the government.

 

We'll see if Starmer uses his victory to do that, I don't really like the "trust that he's lying to you" stance of his left-ish supporters, but Labour impacts policy while in government. The Labour leader should be getting/keeping the party in government.

I think the whole media and polling industry should resign if labour doesn't win th next election.

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10 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Oh and as for what they do in power let's hope they don't disappoint otherwise we could well end up with a lovely right wing populist pile of poop in 2029.

 

Agree with this. If Starmer gets immigration down to under 200k as promised and manages to build as many houses as promised I think that will probably fix things. The israel / Palestine war ending during this parliment would help too.

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1 hour ago, lost said:

 

Agree with this. If Starmer gets immigration down to under 200k as promised and manages to build as many houses as promised I think that will probably fix things. The israel / Palestine war ending during this parliment would help too.

He might actually get lucky with inflation down, rates dropping, a bit more growth in the economy, and higher tax revenue.

But still a lot of disorder in the world ..Trump could be back in the Whitehouse, Le Pen could win in France in a few years, and who knows what will happen with Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Palestine. And then there's China/Taiwan.

Plus, it's the unpredictable stuff. Financial crashes or wars or pandemics...these are things that often end governments.

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