UK Politics

[Punksnotdead]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

YES BUT WHAT IF THEY'VE ALL GOT IT WRONG?!

Stop it! I've already got butterflies waiting for 10pm to tick round. I might have to start drinking early (the champagne is definitely on hold though). 😃

[charlierc]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

YES BUT WHAT IF THEY'VE ALL GOT IT WRONG?!

Wonder what the worst anyone has ever called an election was.

 

The paper that confidently called the 1948 US Presidential election for the guy who lost, perhaps?

[pink_triangle]

6 hours ago, LJS said:

Never been much of a fan of the "Red Tory" thing myself either - and its not a phrase I can ever remember using  - although I have certainly been critical of the party & its timidity on and off for about 30 years. 

However if the "red Tory" tag were ever to fit, it is now. The Labour party is now a party that will do anything (or nothing) to win, and seems much more intent on persuading Tory voters to change than actually changing the Country for the better.

I cannot remember a less ambitious prospectus for government from any party in the 45 years I have been voting. 

I had my reservation about New Labour in 1997 but stayed up all night watching the results, rejoicing in every Tory defeat & moderately optimistic that the new Government would be radically different to that which we had endured for 18 years.
Tonight, I shall stay up again & raise a glass every time the Tories lose a seat. The best I can say for the incoming government is that they can't possibly be worse than what we have endured for the past 14 years. 

Excited? Sorry. NO.

 

Labour are trying to build a coalition of voters to win as many seats as possible and that coalition includes people with different views. It’s no different to the SNP trying to build up a coalition of voters to get to 50.1 percent knowing independence cant be won on just left wing votes.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

twitter starting to go mad. Like in 2019 when people were seeing long queues at polling stations meant an unlikely Labour win....now a higher turnout than expected could mean tories doing a lot better than expected...don't knows coming home.

Putting a tenner on a hung parliament.

[mattiloy]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

 

I checked the bookies yday 65-67 was odds on, now looks like low turnout shortened a lot..

 

I reckon everybodies just flying blind. But if i had to guess, i’d go slightly lower than usual. The get the tories out keenos offset by a fair number of summer hols + apathy.

[mattiloy]

[kaosmark2]

54 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

you've given me THE FEAR

THE FEAR.

 

I'm not really afraid of tories staying in gov, that's just so far out. AFAIC either I get to laugh at the polling industry or I get to laugh at Tories. Win win.

[stuie]

58 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

you've given me THE FEAR

Anecdotal at best and I can’t see that many swinging back for this reason. 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

THE FEAR.

 

I'm not really afraid of tories staying in gov, that's just so far out. AFAIC either I get to laugh at the polling industry or I get to laugh at Tories. Win win.

well if Tories do win I will join you in not giving a sh*t ever again and go live in a hut in the woods or something.

[steviewevie]

Actually, I am of a certain age and wealth that maybe a Tory government would be a good thing. 

COME ON RISHI!

[steviewevie]

 

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[Ommadawn]

1 hour ago, LJS said:

A bit of context would be helpful. It's hard to imagine why a tax promised by a party who hasn't been elected yet & the effects of which are not really known would lead to redundancies.

Sounds like an excuse to me.

 

We produce accounting and academic software solely for Independent schools. Feedback from the schools indicates they are expecting much fewer pupils in the next academic year so will be spending much less with us (and all the other businesses serving them - most of them small businesses local to the schools). When you have Bursars telling you they're planning on spending up to 50% less next year on your business, you have to make advance plans.

 

[Ommadawn]

Just now, Ommadawn said:

 

We produce accounting and academic software solely for Independent schools. Feedback from the schools indicates they are expecting much fewer pupils in the next academic year so will be spending much less with us (and all the other businesses serving them - most of them small businesses local to the schools). When you have Bursars telling you they're planning on spending up to 50% less next year on your business, you have to make advance plans.

 

 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

 

We produce accounting and academic software solely for Independent schools. Feedback from the schools indicates they are expecting much fewer pupils in the next academic year so will be spending much less with us (and all the other businesses serving them - most of them small businesses local to the schools). When you have Bursars telling you they're planning on spending up to 50% less next year on your business, you have to make advance plans.

 

and that is directly linked to the VAT thing...or you made that link?

[Ommadawn]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

and that is directly linked to the VAT thing...or you made that link?

 

Pupils not attending the schools are directly linked to the 'VAT thing' as is the knockdown effect.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Ommadawn said:

 

Pupils not attending the schools are directly linked to the 'VAT thing' as is the knockdown effect.

 

 

ok...firstly that is a tenuous link...and secondly...well, sh*t happens. Should just abolish them.

[Ommadawn]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

 

 

ok...firstly that is a tenuous link...and secondly...well, sh*t happens. Should just abolish them.

 

Thanks.

[Nobody Interesting]

2 minutes ago, Ommadawn said:

 

Pupils not attending the schools are directly linked to the 'VAT thing' as is the knockdown effect.

 

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

 

 

ok...firstly that is a tenuous link...and secondly...well, sh*t happens. Should just abolish them.

 

I really really doubt that it will make the difference those who do not want it in place are suggesting. There will of course be some who pull their kids out but don't forget a huge proportion of those that use them are very well healed and have really good accountants so will soon find ways to claim the VAT back.

Also loads of the kids in these schools are from families that work in the British Council and Embassies over seas and the tax payer funds their fees so they will not leave.

I am unconvinced there is a total connection and the company is likely using it as 'a good excuse' to cut staff.

[charlierc]

I guess we'll all find out soon enough huh.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Chris Grayling 

[mattiloy]

Just now, steviewevie said:

Chris Grayling 

Caroline Pigeon.

 

What a menagerie.