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im not surprised by the al fayed stuff, it was well documented in a tom bowyer biography of fayed, years ago, similarly, for branson, so i reckon he's next for exposing.

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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

doesn't hold back...

she's a controversial and divisive MP, proper marmite, and many will question her timing and her motives and wish her good riddance...but still, not great for Starmer.

her complaints are nothing i expected of starmer. thought he was smart enough not to f**k up like that.

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18 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It looks like she is just throwing everything against the wall here. To me in the grand scale of things the freebies is pretty irrelevant. If she had been handed a cabinet position I suspect she would be thinking differently, maybe looking for a GB news job?

she's over reacting, but at the same time, the freebies are so unnecessary, starmer should have known not to take them!

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1 hour ago, pink_triangle said:

It looks like she is just throwing everything against the wall here. To me in the grand scale of things the freebies is pretty irrelevant. If she had been handed a cabinet position I suspect she would be thinking differently, maybe looking for a GB news job?

We'll see..I think there is a fairly big risk this freebie thing will stick. Not 100% Starmer will be PM going into next election.

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41 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

We'll see..I think there is a fairly big risk this freebie thing will stick. Not 100% Starmer will be PM going into next election.

It will only stick if Labour don’t do a good job in power, if Labour do a good job then nobody will care. What’s incredibly hypocritical is some of these journalists banging on about it, you can guarantee they take every freebie going.

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11 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It will only stick if Labour don’t do a good job in power, if Labour do a good job then nobody will care. What’s incredibly hypocritical is some of these journalists banging on about it, you can guarantee they take every freebie going.

Yeah it's all hypocritical and unfair but labour are held to different standards, and that is partly their own doing.

Agree about if they do a good job it won't be an issue, but not sure how much of a difference they can realistically make in 4 or 5:years with the state of things.

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Badenoch and Jenrick look the favourties though we could see a run off between one right winger and one centrist.

 

Jenrick looks to be getting some support back from the reform lot after Farage said mass deportation of illegal immigrants is a political impossibility.

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23 minutes ago, lost said:

Badenoch and Jenrick look the favourties though we could see a run off between one right winger and one centrist.

 

Jenrick looks to be getting some support back from the reform lot after Farage said mass deportation of illegal immigrants is a political impossibility.

Wasn't long ago when Jenrick was a wishy washy liberal one nation wet. Maybe he's had his eyes on the prize last few years and knew he had to be that nasty right wing man to win over the membership and once he's in power he'll be all cameron. Yes Tories need to win back support from Reform, but they'd probably have more joy winning over disillusioned labour voters.

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