steviewevie Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 ..if Badenoch gets into final two, she wins...if she doesn't and Cleverly does..he wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, lazyred said: delaying the VAT school change loads of parents have already avoided it by withdrawing the kids from private schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Neil said: loads of parents have already avoided it by withdrawing the kids from private schools. my heart bleeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1979666 Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 17 hours ago, Neil said: loads of parents have already avoided it by withdrawing the kids from private schools. Probably used the cash they saved to move house to a better catchment area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Tory/Reform coalition in 2029? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: Tory/Reform coalition in 2029? I'm still expecting farage to be Tory leader m maybe that comes after another leader or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 58 minutes ago, Neil said: I'm still expecting farage to be Tory leader m maybe that comes after another leader or two. I don't know...think more likely Tories and Reform do a deal before next election though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyred Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 7 minutes ago, steviewevie said: I don't know...think more likely Tories and Reform do a deal before next election though. They need to reunite the centre right and right to win. I'm not sure Reform want it at the moment. They think they can replace the Tories by taking votes from them and Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: I don't know...think more likely Tories and Reform do a deal before next election though. You could be right it's probably the only way Tories can win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyred Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyred Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Got to think Cleverly will attract most of the Tugendhat support. I think he could beat Jenrick in the members vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 14 minutes ago, lazyred said: Got to think Cleverly will attract most of the Tugendhat support. I think he could beat Jenrick in the members vote Yeah, both Jenrick and Badenoch blew it at the conference by constantly saying stupid sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 right wing MPs now have to choose which one they think could beat Cleverly with members...which is probably Badenoch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 also some Tugendhat votes may go to Jenrick to help Cleverly's chances. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Hopefully a budget full of tax cuts, spending increases and all round feel good giveaways will turn this around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Bring Back Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Apparently kids are Russian agents. I knew it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 On 10/7/2024 at 2:28 PM, steviewevie said: ..if Badenoch gets into final two, she wins...if she doesn't and Cleverly does..he wins. at best the next leader is William Hague, at worst Michael Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 29 minutes ago, Neil said: at best the next leader is William Hague, at worst Michael Howard. Cleverly may win over some centristy moderate voters back from Lib Dem and Labour...Badenoch I guess might win some from Reform...and even then not sure. Badenoch is smart, but she would be a bit of a gamble and will likely not last that long. I think the smart/dull choice is Cleverly. Whoever gets in how they get on is how long and how bad Labour keep f**king up...and I think it's going to get worse tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Rock n Roll. Onwards and upwards to oblivion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, steviewevie said: Cleverly may win over some centristy moderate voters back from Lib Dem and Labour...Badenoch I guess might win some from Reform...and even then not sure. Badenoch is smart, but she would be a bit of a gamble and will likely not last that long. I think the smart/dull choice is Cleverly. Whoever gets in how they get on is how long and how bad Labour keep f**king up...and I think it's going to get worse tbh. Cleverley and Starmer boring everyone to death in the Commons could be just what this country needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 5 hours ago, steviewevie said: also some Tugendhat votes may go to Jenrick to help Cleverly's chances. Love it. You would think that’s the play here. I imagine both Cleverly and Jenrick want to go against each other, so seems obvious to me to knock Kemi out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: Cleverly may win over some centristy moderate voters back from Lib Dem and Labour...Badenoch I guess might win some from Reform...and even then not sure. Badenoch is smart, but she would be a bit of a gamble and will likely not last that long. I think the smart/dull choice is Cleverly. Whoever gets in how they get on is how long and how bad Labour keep f**king up...and I think it's going to get worse tbh. poison chalice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 9 hours ago, Neil said: poison chalice! well...Labour will sort out our finances, will cut spending and taxes and fiscal rules will change so borrowing can be seen as more long term for investment...things will start to look a bit better in 4 years...but everyone hates Starmer, Labour are as bad as all the rest, Cleverly is a nice guy and is promising nice things like lower taxes...Tory landslide 2029. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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