UK Politics

[steviewevie]

They're both climate sceptics...so that will be something fun to fight over at the next election. Maybe we could have a referendum on net zero as well as ECHR membership?

[steviewevie]

A great result for the Lib Dems.

[lost]

44 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

what about rightie gender critical feminists?

 

Probably already voting Tory. The comments about Badenoch always start, i don't agree with her economically but..

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[pink_triangle]

Starmer has had some incredible good luck with some of those things outside his control.

[charlierc]

Presumably whomever wins, the main goal is actually making it to the next election given the Tory party's inherent volatility.

[Neil]

13 hours ago, lost said:

Farage saying Jenrick is the one the Tory establishment will freeze out not Badenoch as he wants to leave ECHR

and of course farage has never frozen out members of his parties  who had different ideas to him.

[mattiloy]

11 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Yes. Badenoch = Corbyn. Jenrick = Starmer.

But Corbyn beat 2 starmers when it was the party voting. So expect a Badenoch win.

 

Also it doesnt matter who wins, as sh*t as they both are, they both beat Starmer in 2029.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

But Corbyn beat 2 starmers when it was the party voting. So expect a Badenoch win.

 

Also it doesnt matter who wins, as sh*t as they both are, they both beat Starmer in 2029.

Well if Badenoch=Corbyn then it will be a labour landslide and the Badenochites will blame everyone except themselves forever more.

[pink_triangle]

While I understand the Jenrick and Starmer comparison I think there is a significant difference. Starmer may have courted left wing members, but he didn’t really court the MPs. Starmer went into the members vote with over half of the MPs supporting him which is a lot stronger position. Jenrick has only the support of 1/3 of MPs which is a lot less stable and reliant on the right wingers to keep him in power, in a way Starmer never needed the lefty MPs.

[mattiloy]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Well if Badenoch=Corbyn then it will be a labour landslide and the Badenochites will blame everyone except themselves forever more.

Yeah agree, the comparison was always weak. Starmer’s approval ratings are worse than Emperor Nero so its not quite the same. And thats even assuming he isnt tied up in the hague by then. Different times.

Edited 19 hours ago by mattiloy

[steviewevie]

I hope they pick Badenoch and then hope she never becomes PM.

[steviewevie]

reversing those NI cuts would go a long way to fixing this...

 

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[steviewevie]

IFS message to Reeves...good luck with that.

 

The outlook for the public finances in the new parliament | Institute for Fiscal Studies (ifs.org.uk)

[lost]

Boris on his come back tour:

 

 

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, lost said:

Boris on his come back tour:

 

 

almost certainly

[steviewevie]

entrepreneurs and investors of the world unite

 

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31 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

entrepreneurs and investors of the world unite

 

 

The 25bn extra that the IFS say they need for current spending is a massive amount.. CGT currently raises 15bn. If they want to raise a lot from CGT they will have to extend it to things like main homes or reduce the ISA limits not just raise the CGT rates.

 

 

 

[steviewevie]

The budget will inevitably be seen as at best a disappointment, at worse a total disaster.