UK Politics

[Crazyfool01]

7 minutes ago, lost said:

 

I went for a hair cut today and it had gone up 15% so it seems some business are passing it on.

I went today and it was same price . 

[lost]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Doesn't kick in till next April. 

 

Yeah probably preemtive but purely anectdotal I'm seeing inflation ticking up again.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, lost said:

 

Yeah probably preemtive but purely anectdotal I'm seeing inflation ticking up again.

I hope you didn't tip them 

[pink_triangle]

11 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Labour governing when they came 3rd would be unsustainable.

If that actually happened it would have to be a Tory/Reform coalition, and if they didn't get enough seats then probably another election.

Anyway, bit silly looking at polls this early in the parliament, by 2028 Bojo will be back.

3rd in the popular vote of 3rd in seats? Our system doesn’t go on popular vote, so think they could govern if they won most seats and could come up an agreement with other parties. That scenario is not what the modelling is possible, but think possible if conservatives and reform split votes ineffectively.

[steviewevie]

maybe there could be a grand coalition...tories and labour. Keep those pesky upstarts out of government. Everyone keeps saying they're pretty much the same...

[steviewevie]

Does anyone feel an inevitably about Reform though? They don't need to win off policies because theirs don't add up, but they have the anti establishment vibe...the sort of vibe that carried through the brexit vote.

 

 

Edited Friday at 08:05 AM by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

Starmer's broken the trains now, as well as the weather.

[steviewevie]

Starmer has upset civil servants now.

[fred quimby]

On 12/5/2024 at 8:16 PM, lost said:

 

I went for a hair cut today and it had gone up 15% so it seems some business are passing it on.

Or it was to do with the state of that thatch 😉

[steviewevie]

More trouble ahead for the govt with spending review..not going to be pretty. They're going to have to put up more taxes in a year or two.

[Neil]

On 12/3/2024 at 6:52 AM, steviewevie said:

Starmer says can be close to both EU and US. Good luck with that. EU our largest trading partner, US a large trading partner but also important in terms of security. Any further distance from EU hurts growth. Tariffs by US hurts growth. Trump hates EU, he just sees them as a competitor/rival/enemy like China. US possibly going to go through a chaotic, distabling period. EU economies struggling and populism on the rise. Some sort of reckoning coming for Ukraine/Russia/NATO. Try squaring that.

At same time maybe business will see us as a good place to invest, between but close to two big economic blocks, politically stable compared to both etc.

Or we'll play piggy in the middle of various trade wars which will f**k our economy and we'll descend into our own messy populism.

the existence of the EU limits the ability to cut a deal, the EU will have to play with the same parameters as ever cos it cant give a non member better terms than members have.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

More trouble ahead for the govt with spending review..not going to be pretty. They're going to have to put up more taxes in a year or two.

they need to find better ways to spread the tax burden, not helped by stuff like  the switch to EVs, which loses the petrol taxes.

[steviewevie]

7 hours ago, Neil said:

they need to find better ways to spread the tax burden, not helped by stuff like  the switch to EVs, which loses the petrol taxes.

the petrol taxes that they never unfreeze anyway.

Looks like they will be chucking a lot at NHS in desperate attempt to get waiting times down before next election, because they think that is key to them winning...but that means lack of cash for other stuff that desperately needs more money...justice, local govt, education. Then will likely be a need to increase defence spending when Trump starts making various NATO threats etc.

And with taxes as we've seen they're always unpopular with someone. I think they should put up income tax, but that would probably be the nail in the coffin for the govt, or if want to go after wealth with capital gains on house/land sells etc...which would likely be another nail.

[gary1979666]

9 hours ago, steviewevie said:

More trouble ahead for the govt with spending review..not going to be pretty. They're going to have to put up more taxes in a year or two.

Sounds like the teachers and nurses are wanting more money too - threats of strikes again!

[lost]

Difficult to tell as labour seem to be all over the place but they may actually fight it this time and expect something in return:

 

 

Edited 13 minutes ago by lost