UK Politics

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

kind of glad Ozanne isn't on here during this, for his own sake.

[Nobody Interesting]

Personally I am more interested in the utter bullshit both Tory and Labour have said in their dossiers on the other one.

Are they trying to outlie each other and lost the ability to just be honest and have policies instead?

[Nobody Interesting]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

kind of glad Ozanne isn't on here during this, for his own sake.

 

Why?

 

Cos they might have to admit that maybe Starmer is not the messiah?

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Why?

 

Cos they might have to admit that maybe Starmer is not the messiah?

Because he was super loyal to Starmer no matter what and he got a lot of sh*t for it.

[Nobody Interesting]

3 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Because he was super loyal to Starmer no matter what and he got a lot of sh*t for it.

 

Super loyal

 

Blinkered

 

 

[steviewevie]

Just now, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Super loyal

 

Blinkered

 

 

Yeah so thanks for helping me make my point 

[pink_triangle]

35 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

If you think that a single percent of Labour’s majority comes from anything other than the conservatives being a total binfire for the last few years and the UK being a two party system, you’re just not getting it.

 

 

I agree it’s more that people are looking to get rid of the Tory’s then a love for labour. However would people have been passionately voting labour if RLB had won the leadership who was the only realistic contender. I expect some would be voting labour feeling happier but not among the swing voters who matter.

[pink_triangle]

18 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Personally I am more interested in the utter bullshit both Tory and Labour have said in their dossiers on the other one.

Are they trying to outlie each other and lost the ability to just be honest and have policies instead?

If one party is honest and the other isn’t I’m not convinced the honest party is the one rewarded.

[steviewevie]

[steviewevie]

wow

 

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Yeah so thanks for helping me make my point 

 

So your point was that people disagreed with them and that was not OK as they could not cope with it?

Last 'debate' I had with them was to point out and show that they said two totally opposite things re byelections to try and make their point of view correct on two occasions.

I am sorry but the 'welcome' most got here from them and you when you joined forces to attack anyone who dared to question Labour was so over the top and made numerous people not post any more.

You have been, on the whole, far nicer and more reasonable since they went away.

Anyway.

Labour are more like the Tories every day.

So the winner is Tory or Tory not so lite

[Nobody Interesting]

56 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

If one party is honest and the other isn’t I’m not convinced the honest party is the one rewarded.

 

Maybe not but at least someone has tried to be honest rather that the constant lies and twisted truths we all now get.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

So your point was that people disagreed with them and that was not OK as they could not cope with it?

Last 'debate' I had with them was to point out and show that they said two totally opposite things re byelections to try and make their point of view correct on two occasions.

I am sorry but the 'welcome' most got here from them and you when you joined forces to attack anyone who dared to question Labour was so over the top and made numerous people not post any more.

You have been, on the whole, far nicer and more reasonable since they went away.

Anyway.

Labour are more like the Tories every day.

So the winner is Tory or Tory not so lite

 

My point was I'm glad he's not here because he'd be getting loads of sh*t, probably from you. I didn't say anything was OK or not OK. The bloke has a few mental health issues, and he did wind people up the wrong way in his defence of Labour/Starmer and used disgraceful insults like Tory,  but at same time he got lot back, called virgin or incel or weird etc.

 

Anyway, to your point about Labour which I'm no idea why you felt you needed to make...

I'll be voting Tory not so lite because I want Tories #1 out, and I couldn't live with myself if I voted elsewhere and they ended up winning because opportunities like this don't come along very often. Whether they'll be any good who knows, I am sceptical, but that is the choice..it is Starmer or Sunak.

[steviewevie]

 

[Crazyfool01]

Ok as Ozanne has clearly left and is unable to speak for himself on the matter it’s probably fair on him that the discussion goes back to the topic . I’d hope that whatever has been said not a single one of us knows how or what he feels and even in disagreement I’d hope that we’d unite in wishing him well 

 

Thanks all back on topic please 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Ok as Ozanne has clearly left and is unable to speak for himself on the matter it’s probably fair on him that the discussion goes back to the topic . I’d hope that whatever has been said not a single one of us knows how or what he feels and even in disagreement I’d hope that we’d unite in wishing him well 

 

Thanks all back on topic please 

That mean someone hit Report?

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, steviewevie said:

That mean someone hit Report?

No is just fair and reasonable as he’s not here 

Edited May 30 by Crazyfool01

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

No is just fair and reasonable as he’s not here 

sure....

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

more liked and at same time disliked than Corbyn...because of her being a black woman.

of course it was that and just that, and nothing to do with her lifetime saying stupid things (stupid things similar to that letter). the people who want to regard themselves as anti-racists, have reduced abbott to being just a skin color!.

[steviewevie]

So...i news saying that Labour insiders saying they are doing this purge in case they win with a small majority....I guess if they struggle to get their fascist policies passed they could rely on Lib Dem MPs and not those pesky socialists sitting behind them.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

of course it was that and just that, and nothing to do with her lifetime saying stupid things (stupid things similar to that letter). the people who want to regard themselves as anti-racists, have reduced abbott to being just a skin color!.

well before that letter she received a huge amount of abuse

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Because he was super loyal to Starmer no matter what and he got a lot of sh*t for it.

 Deleted before the MODS get to it.

Edited May 30 by Ommadawn

[Neil]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

well before that letter she received a huge amount of abuse

a lot of it cos shes said similarly stupid things for all of her parliamentary career. most famously something about private schools, with her kid at a private school, and then calling the people who pointed out her hypocrisy 'racists'.