UK Politics

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Sooner Rayner takes over the better...

 

She'll get the same factualism.

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

no advance in the green's percentage.

[LJS]

They are 20 points ahead in the polls, but still seem to think they haven't been tory enough. He's starting to make Tony Blair look like a radical  Socialist.

[Ryan1984]

4 hours ago, LJS said:

They are 20 points ahead in the polls, but still seem to think they haven't been tory enough. He's starting to make Tony Blair look like a radical  Socialist.

Doubling down on the ‘winning tactics’ for undecided voters?

 

Going in on something he knows the Abbott haters will lap up? 

[steviewevie]

23 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

Doubling down on the ‘winning tactics’ for undecided voters?

 

Going in on something he knows the Abbott haters will lap up? 

Mopping up anyone still not thinking of voting labour as we become a one party state led by our great chairman Keir 

[steviewevie]

 

[Nobody Interesting]

19 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

 

You might be glad I did not take you up on your bet LOL

 

Though I do think Abbott will stand just to spite Starmer and co.

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

nice summary from Stephen Bush...

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

I guess a reminder that twitter does not reflect the real world...although this was kind of just before the whole Abbott thing...

 

[Neil]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

that sort of dealing is probably pretty standard, from any party leader.

(a deal for abbott to go quietly is a good idea, if abbot could have stuck to the deal)shes a dinosaur of decreasing relevance (and her letter showed that her thinking is stuck long ago in the past). Thanks to her efforts over the years, society has moved on and there's a better understanding of racism than she displayed in that letter.

[steviewevie]

26 minutes ago, Neil said:

that sort of dealing is probably pretty standard, from any party leader.

(a deal for abbott to go quietly is a good idea, if abbot could have stuck to the deal)shes a dinosaur of decreasing relevance (and her letter showed that her thinking is stuck long ago in the past). Thanks to her efforts over the years, society has moved on and there's a better understanding of racism than she displayed in that letter.

Yes and maybe that was the deal anyway until someone leaked that she was being barred from standing to The Times.

Edited June 2 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

Greens -10

 

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Yes and maybe that was the deal anyway until someone leaked that she was being barred from standing to The Times.

someone who's name starts with'd' i'd guess.

[steviewevie]

17 minutes ago, Neil said:

someone who's name starts with'd' i'd guess.

Nah it would have been someone that The Times trusted with this info...

[steviewevie]

 

[kaosmark2]

10 hours ago, LJS said:

They are 20 points ahead in the polls, but still seem to think they haven't been tory enough. He's starting to make Tony Blair look like a radical  Socialist.

 

Blair was willing to argue for the societal benefit of things. We got a minimum wage, surestart, new schools, new transport infrastructure. He was willing to promise hope. He was a league ahead of Starmer.

 

These twats only promise hate. I'm done with thinking there's any hope for the Labour party improving society. Starmer is too busy playing dogwhistle politics and enabling hatespeech.

 

A human rights lawyer who will attack human rights at home and abroad.

 

It's disgraceful.

[Neil]

only thing which would do for trump in the usa would be if he came out as gay!

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

 

Blair was willing to argue for the societal benefit of things. We got a minimum wage, surestart, new schools, new transport infrastructure. He was willing to promise hope. He was a league ahead of Starmer.

 

These twats only promise hate. I'm done with thinking there's any hope for the Labour party improving society. Starmer is too busy playing dogwhistle politics and enabling hatespeech.

 

A human rights lawyer who will attack human rights at home and abroad.

 

It's disgraceful.

Blair had the serious studied politician of brown behind him, seems like starmer understands power but not politics.

[lazyred]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

that sort of dealing is probably pretty standard, from any party leader.

(a deal for abbott to go quietly is a good idea, if abbot could have stuck to the deal)shes a dinosaur of decreasing relevance (and her letter showed that her thinking is stuck long ago in the past). Thanks to her efforts over the years, society has moved on and there's a better understanding of racism than she displayed in that letter.

I agree with the above except I think it was Labour not Abbott who broke the deal. They couldn't resist pushing the Change message and briefing she was finished. Also why wait until the election is called before restoring the  whip? She could have been selected by the local party and still stood down now. It looks like she is going to make them endorse her before she stands down.

[Neil]

38 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Greens -10

 

the activists that article speaks of, have moved out of mummy's and now live in a caravan  between ikea and the dump, so might not even get a vote.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

 

Blair was willing to argue for the societal benefit of things. We got a minimum wage, surestart, new schools, new transport infrastructure. He was willing to promise hope. He was a league ahead of Starmer.

 

These twats only promise hate. I'm done with thinking there's any hope for the Labour party improving society. Starmer is too busy playing dogwhistle politics and enabling hatespeech.

 

A human rights lawyer who will attack human rights at home and abroad.

 

It's disgraceful.

agree it is a bit sh*tty (and disingenuous as net migration was forecast to come down anyway)...but...well...bluntly...immigration is still an important issue for a lot of people...you can continue to argue they're wrong, or just give them something.

[kaosmark2]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

Blair had the serious studied politician of brown behind him, seems like starmer understands power but not politics.

 

It's "the cost of everything and the value of nothing" politics. Reeves has, in the past, made the emotional, principled argument for economic policies. She's stopped that now, and I suspect this is from briefings by Starmer and his closest allies.