UK Politics

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

15 hours ago, steviewevie said:

recognising the Palestinian state thing, would not be straight away

can't be done in any meaningful way until there's an actual state to be recognised until then its meaningless guff.

[Neil]

21 hours ago, LJS said:

Well, in fairness, it is you bastards that keep inflicting awful Tory governments on us

you demand that the english respect how scot's vote which is one-directional guff.

[steviewevie]

Any other leader would be 50 points ahead.

 

[LJS]

8 hours ago, Neil said:

can't be done in any meaningful way until there's an actual state to be recognised until then its meaningless guff.

Maybe, but 144 countries appear to take a different view.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine#:~:text=As of June 2024%2C the,General Assembly since November 2012.

[steviewevie]

13 minutes ago, LJS said:

Maybe, but 144 countries appear to take a different view.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine#:~:text=As of June 2024%2C the,General Assembly since November 2012.

 

yeah, and how's that working out? In terms of security council it is only the US who voted against in most recent vote, we abstained (as we did in initial recognition of Israel).

 

I can see a strategy where different western countries recognise Palestinian state at different stages of a peace process towards a two state solution, because at moment just calling it a state doesn't really make it a state.

Anyway, at this stage any workable solution looks pretty much impossible, unless somehow enforced without more carnage. It's a frickin disaster. All the leaders on both sides need locking up.

[steviewevie]

Also with this free Times weekend you get to read Rod Liddle gems...

The Greens used to be about bees and hedgehogs, but now it’s all bile and venom (thetimes.com)

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Also with this free Times weekend you get to read Rod Liddle gems...

The Greens used to be about bees and hedgehogs, but now it’s all bile and venom (thetimes.com)

discovered that Liddle is standing as a candidate for the SDP (bit different to the 80s version)

Home - SDP

[LJS]

29 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Also with this free Times weekend you get to read Rod Liddle gems...

The Greens used to be about bees and hedgehogs, but now it’s all bile and venom (thetimes.com)

Rod riddle criticises bile and venom?

 

Pot criticises kettle.

 

[steviewevie]

another free to read...

 

[Nobody Interesting]

Listening to Farage makes me wonder if his plan is, and likely has been for  a while, to get elected for Reform hence arriving late and taking the best chance seat, and then once in parliament defecting to the Tories just in time to enter their leadership contest after Sunak goes and then change the Tory Party to the party he always want as he wants power but know Reform will never give him that.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Also with this free Times weekend you get to read Rod Liddle gems...

The Greens used to be about bees and hedgehogs, but now it’s all bile and venom (thetimes.com)

 

If you choose to read the bile and venom the Times publishes you will always get crap like this thrown at you as that is what the readership wants - anything to tell them all is well and the Conservatives are great and everyone else are stupid.

[steviewevie]

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Listening to Farage makes me wonder if his plan is, and likely has been for  a while, to get elected for Reform hence arriving late and taking the best chance seat, and then once in parliament defecting to the Tories just in time to enter their leadership contest after Sunak goes and then change the Tory Party to the party he always want as he wants power but know Reform will never give him that.

he can try to defect, but would they take him?

[Crazyfool01]

Laura K being a bit tougher on the Tory today .... maybe shes realised and hopes to keep her job 

[steviewevie]

Blame game 

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

5 hours ago, LJS said:

Maybe, but 144 countries appear to take a different view.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine#:~:text=As of June 2024%2C the,General Assembly since November 2012.

show me the entity  they've recognised, to show its not virtue signalling.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Listening to Farage makes me wonder if his plan is, and likely has been for  a while, to get elected for Reform hence arriving late and taking the best chance seat, and then once in parliament defecting to the Tories just in time to enter their leadership contest after Sunak goes and then change the Tory Party to the party he always want as he wants power but know Reform will never give him that.

 

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that happened. I can see Reform imploding after the GE.

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

4 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Listening to Farage makes me wonder if his plan is, and likely has been for  a while, to get elected for Reform hence arriving late and taking the best chance seat, and then once in parliament defecting to the Tories just in time to enter their leadership contest after Sunak goes and then change the Tory Party to the party he always want as he wants power but know Reform will never give him that.

i agree that hes aiming to be tory leader.

[Nobody Interesting]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

he can try to defect, but would they take him?

Yes, cos he is sadly 'eectable' and Truss and her cohort like him

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Yes, cos he is sadly 'eectable' and Truss and her cohort like him

but a lot of Tory MPs don't.

I don't think it will happen.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

but a lot of Tory MPs don't.

I don't think it will happen.

It's not down to the MP's who is accepted in and Farage can become a member. All it would take is whoever is leader/interim leader to agree and the 1922 committee to agree and he would be in.