UK Politics

[LJS]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

If Braverman or Patel become leader then yes, maybe....but more likely it will be Badenoch/Mordaunt/Cleverly who won't want him anywhere near.

What an inspiring choice of  leaders! The Tory party, and indeed the Nation is indeed fortunate to have such a wealth of talent at their disposal.

[steviewevie]

Douglas Ross quitting.

[steviewevie]

Will go down well with their base...

 

[Nobody Interesting]

6 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Will go down well with their base...

 

 

and here is the full atricle

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko

[lazyred]

19 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

and here is the full atricle

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko

Main defence seems to be that a lot of the British establishment was sympathetic to fascism. It's true but we don't talk about it much now. 

[Neil]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Maybe Labour will put up CGT, and/or inheritance tax...they haven't been explicitly ruled out, not sure how fits with the no tax rises for working people thing they keep going on about. Could fix council tax too. Possible that in the autumn Reeves will go what the f**k didn't know it was this bad, we're going to need more dosh let's tax wealth.

they could nick the libdem tax rises for rises  on CGT and @mattiloy

[Neil]

2 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

'often' doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence

not when  'often' the likes of Jeremy Corbyn and plenty of others are pension millionaires.

[steviewevie]

 

[LJS]

LibDems tapping into anti - Brexit sentiment

[Neil]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

reform taking green votes.

[fraybentos1]

9 minutes ago, Neil said:

not when  'often' the likes of Jeremy Corbyn and plenty of others are pension millionaires.

Yeah being an MP for 40 years defo makes you an average joe with an average joe pension!

[fraybentos1]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

reform taking green votes.

Just when you think Neil's political takes can't get worse he hits out with this lol

 

Greens are up 2 points in that poll 🤣 and common sense would suggest there is basically 0 crossover of potential voters between the 2 parties

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, LJS said:

LibDems tapping into anti - Brexit sentiment

They won't like that in the brexit heartlands of SW England.

(or maybe they don't give a sh*t actually)

[steviewevie]

14 minutes ago, Neil said:

reform taking green votes.

Green are +2.

[steviewevie]

 Lib Dem manifesto main pledges:

 

- Give everyone a new right to see a GP within seven days, or 24 hours if it’s urgent, with the extra doctors needed to "make it happen" and by introducing a universal 24/7 GP booking system

 

- Strengthen democratic rights and participation by scrapping the Conservatives’ voter ID scheme and giving 16- and 17-year-olds the right to vote

 

- Introduce proportional representation for electing MPs, and local councillors in England, and cap donations to political parties

 

- Reform the House of Lords with a "proper" democratic mandate

 

- Hold big companies to account by giving them a duty to protect the environment, including banning water companies from dumping raw sewage into rivers, lakes and coastal areas

 

- Immediately fix the "broken" relationship with Europe, forge a new partnership built on cooperation, not confrontation, and move to conclude a new comprehensive agreement that removes as many barriers to trade as possible

 

- Invest in renewable power and home insulation to drive a strong economic recovery, bring down energy bills and create clean, secure, well-paid new jobs

 

- Reversing Conservative tax cuts for the big banks, restoring Bank Surcharge and Bank Levy revenues to 2016 levels in real terms

 

- Increasing the Digital Services Tax on social media firms and other tech giants from 2% to 6%

 

- Fairly reforming capital gains tax to close loopholes "exploited" by the super wealthy

 

- Establish national and local citizens’ assemblies to give people real involvement in the decisions needed to tackle climate change

 

- Restore the requirement that every new car and small van sold from 2030 is zeroemission, investing in active travel and public transport, and electrify Britain’s railways

 

- Meeting the UK’s commitment under the Paris Agreement to reduce emissions by at least 68% from 1990 levels by 2030

 

- Establish mental health hubs for young people in every community and introducing regular mental health check-ups at key points in people’s lives when they are most vulnerable to mental ill-health

 

- Introducing a 4% tax on the share buyback schemes of FTSE-100 listed companies, to "incentivise" productive investment, job creation and economic growth

 

- Fix the "broken" Statutory Sick Pay system by:

 

• Making it available to the more than one million workers earning less than £123 a week, most of whom are women

 

• Aligning the rate with the National Minimum Wage

 

• Making payments available from the first day of missing work rather than the fourth

 

• Supporting small employers with Statutory Sick Pay costs, consulting with them on the "best way" to do this

 

- Introduce free personal care based on the model introduced by the Liberal Democrats in government in Scotland in 2002, so that provision is based on need, not ability to pay

 

- Create a social care workforce plan, establish a Royal College of Care Workers to improve recognition and career progression, and introduce a higher Carer’s Minimum Wage

 

- Establish a cross-party commission to forge a long-term agreement on sustainable funding for social care

 

- Develop a digital strategy to enable care users to live tech-enabled lives

 

- Minister for Tackling Loneliness

[steviewevie]

[stuie]

hahaha back once again with the pension tax avoiders.

blimey. 

[Nobody Interesting]

5 minutes ago, stuie said:

hahaha back once again with the pension tax avoiders.

blimey. 

 

Did you know that if you run a business and get anything given to you, even someone buying you a pint or something at a meeting of people connected to your business you have to declare it on your tax returns as it can effect the tax payable. If you don't declare it then that is tax avoidance or if the value is substantial, evasion.

 

Same goes if you gain entry to anywhere without paying via free tickets.

 

Anyway................ shoot all pension holders.

[stuie]

3 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Did you know that if you run a business and get anything given to you, even someone buying you a pint or something at a meeting of people connected to your business you have to declare it on your tax returns as it can effect the tax payable. If you don't declare it then that is tax avoidance or if the value is substantial, evasion.

 

Same goes if you gain entry to anywhere without paying via free tickets.

 

Anyway................ shoot all pension holders.

 

Yes, I'm familiar with P11D and have accidentally forgot to declare Christmas gifts and food/drink hampers given to me by suppliers from time to time! 

 

Just waiting for the knock on the door really. 

[steviewevie]

 

[kaosmark2]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 Lib Dem manifesto main pledges:

 

- Give everyone a new right to see a GP within seven days, or 24 hours if it’s urgent, with the extra doctors needed to "make it happen" and by introducing a universal 24/7 GP booking system

 

- Strengthen democratic rights and participation by scrapping the Conservatives’ voter ID scheme and giving 16- and 17-year-olds the right to vote

 

- Introduce proportional representation for electing MPs, and local councillors in England, and cap donations to political parties

 

- Reform the House of Lords with a "proper" democratic mandate

 

- Hold big companies to account by giving them a duty to protect the environment, including banning water companies from dumping raw sewage into rivers, lakes and coastal areas

 

- Immediately fix the "broken" relationship with Europe, forge a new partnership built on cooperation, not confrontation, and move to conclude a new comprehensive agreement that removes as many barriers to trade as possible

 

- Invest in renewable power and home insulation to drive a strong economic recovery, bring down energy bills and create clean, secure, well-paid new jobs

 

- Reversing Conservative tax cuts for the big banks, restoring Bank Surcharge and Bank Levy revenues to 2016 levels in real terms

 

- Increasing the Digital Services Tax on social media firms and other tech giants from 2% to 6%

 

- Fairly reforming capital gains tax to close loopholes "exploited" by the super wealthy

 

- Establish national and local citizens’ assemblies to give people real involvement in the decisions needed to tackle climate change

 

- Restore the requirement that every new car and small van sold from 2030 is zeroemission, investing in active travel and public transport, and electrify Britain’s railways

 

- Meeting the UK’s commitment under the Paris Agreement to reduce emissions by at least 68% from 1990 levels by 2030

 

- Establish mental health hubs for young people in every community and introducing regular mental health check-ups at key points in people’s lives when they are most vulnerable to mental ill-health

 

- Introducing a 4% tax on the share buyback schemes of FTSE-100 listed companies, to "incentivise" productive investment, job creation and economic growth

 

- Fix the "broken" Statutory Sick Pay system by:

 

• Making it available to the more than one million workers earning less than £123 a week, most of whom are women

 

• Aligning the rate with the National Minimum Wage

 

• Making payments available from the first day of missing work rather than the fourth

 

• Supporting small employers with Statutory Sick Pay costs, consulting with them on the "best way" to do this

 

- Introduce free personal care based on the model introduced by the Liberal Democrats in government in Scotland in 2002, so that provision is based on need, not ability to pay

 

- Create a social care workforce plan, establish a Royal College of Care Workers to improve recognition and career progression, and introduce a higher Carer’s Minimum Wage

 

- Establish a cross-party commission to forge a long-term agreement on sustainable funding for social care

 

- Develop a digital strategy to enable care users to live tech-enabled lives

 

- Minister for Tackling Loneliness

 

The one I liked most was this:

Setting a 20% higher minimum wage for people on zero-hour contracts at times of normal demand to compensate them for the uncertainty of fluctuating hours of work

 

It's a much better solution to companies doing 0-hr contracts than banning them altogether. There's a lot of times they're good for the worker as well as the business.

[Neil]

2 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

Yeah being an MP for 40 years defo makes you an average joe with an average joe pension!

i know lots of average joes with huge pension pots, 40 years as a senior local authority manager will do it. or 25 years as a university professor.

Edited June 10 by Neil

[Neil]

2 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

Just when you think Neil's political takes can't get worse he hits out with this lol

 

Greens are up 2 points in that poll 🤣 and common sense would suggest there is basically 0 crossover of potential voters between the 2 parties

 

 

reform % up/green% down. / i i think greens and reform mostly attract voters on the same basis, people who want to vote for a different party to the normal ones.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Green are +2.

for some* reason i saw that as -2.

 

(*possibly the brain damaged i've suffered which the likes of frey knows about, but he always comes in with size twelve c**tish). bet he used to hang outside his local special school to abuse the kids.

Edited June 10 by Neil

[Nobody Interesting]

Labour has dropped a plan to reintroduce a cap on how much people are allowed to save into their pensions before paying tax, after lobbying from senior NHS doctors.

Under the pensions lifetime allowance, pension pots over £1.07m faced an annual tax of £40,000 on average.

It was scrapped in April, but there remain unfixed issues with the legislation which affect some people.

Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves had originally vowed to bring back the allowance, which could raise £800m a year, but Labour has now dropped it ahead of the planned released of its manifesto on Thursday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11n2krmm4o