UK Politics

[steviewevie]

57 minutes ago, lost said:

Didn't see the debates but capitial gains tax on your primary residence (family home) seems to be running in the papers, apprently Rayner refused to deny its going to be introduced.

DO IT!

[steviewevie]

[lost]

15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

DO IT!

 

It would certainly raise revenue and probably be popular with younger people. If they are going to bring it in on top of aligning CGT with income tax then the "my property is my pension" older people who gave up on traditional pensions post dot com bust are not going to be impressed at handing over 40% of their housing gains to the state.

[steviewevie]

 

[lazyred]

10 minutes ago, lost said:

 

It would certainly raise revenue and probably be popular with younger people. If they are going to bring it in on top of aligning CGT with income tax then the "my property is my pension" older people who gave up on traditional pensions post dot com bust are not going to be impressed at handing over 40% of their housing gains to the state.

The case for it is overwhelming. Govt policy until recently has kept interest rates low and restrictive planning plus population growth has increased demand. The gains are pure windfall profits. I agree it would be very unpopular and there is little chance of it happening.

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ffs. Window tax then.

 

[steviewevie]

as a labour voter obviously supporting Germany.

[Neil]

5 hours ago, steviewevie said:

DO IT!

if they did it wouldn't just be the house owners who'd kick off but  the people hoping to inherit the house.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

if they did it wouldn't just be the house owners who'd kick off but  the people hoping to inherit the house.

Tough

[Ryan1984]

5 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

For someone who bangs on and on about ‘democracy’, you’d think he’d wait for votes to have taken place and be counted before making statements like that…

[Neil]

scotland not letting us down with the comedy. 😛

 

[steviewevie]

12 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said:

For someone who bangs on and on about ‘democracy’, you’d think he’d wait for votes to have taken place and be counted before making statements like that…

Then it will be too late. They might get more vote than Lib Dems and maybe even Tories but will end up with maybe one MP.

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Apparently we're going to join something called PEM.

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Edited June 15 by steviewevie

[kaosmark2]

A Tory has said that Labour's manifesto isn't radical enough:

 

https://www.twitter.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1801912755995251123

 

 

Edited June 15 by kaosmark2

[LJS]

41 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

A Tory has said that Labour's manifesto isn't radical enough:

 

https://www.twitter.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1801912755995251123

 

 

He's right: but he resigned from the Conservative Party in 2019.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, kaosmark2 said:

A Tory has said that Labour's manifesto isn't radical enough:

 

https://www.twitter.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1801912755995251123

 

 

I guess they could either promise more which they can't deliver, or promise less and then hope to deliver a bit more.

 

But, also...there is a lot of stuff in that manifesto, there just wasn't anything that hadn't already been announced, and there weren't any big tax and spend numbers which are probably going to be needed.

 

[kaosmark2]

18 minutes ago, LJS said:

He's right: but he resigned from the Conservative Party in 2019.

 

When I say he's a Tory, I mean that he is a Tory politically, in the mould of Major/Thatcher/Hesseltine. He isn't a centrist, or left-wing politician, his politics are right-wing, he worked in and for the Tories for a long time, and it was only when they lurched out of the EU and into populism that he left the party.

 

Labour's manifesto and policy standings shouldn't be to the right of Rory Stewart. There's a lot of arguments as to where they should be, and however much I wish they were closer to my ideals, I do accept that there's a level of pragmatism that is required to get into government and to achieve anything. But when someone who's politics is so traditionally Tory says that Labour aren't being radical enough... it highlights how weak their policies are. It's just another signal of how much is getting lost.

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

 

When I say he's a Tory, I mean that he is a Tory politically, in the mould of Major/Thatcher/Hesseltine. He isn't a centrist, or left-wing politician, his politics are right-wing, he worked in and for the Tories for a long time, and it was only when they lurched out of the EU and into populism that he left the party.

 

Labour's manifesto and policy standings shouldn't be to the right of Rory Stewart. There's a lot of arguments as to where they should be, and however much I wish they were closer to my ideals, I do accept that there's a level of pragmatism that is required to get into government and to achieve anything. But when someone who's politics is so traditionally Tory says that Labour aren't being radical enough... it highlights how weak their policies are. It's just another signal of how much is getting lost.

Radical doesn't necessarily mean left wing? Reform and Tory manifestos are pretty radical. Liz Truss was pretty radical.