Nobody Interesting Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, steviewevie said: everything you suggest is a terrible idea imo. On this point or on everything I have ever said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said: On this point or on everything I have ever said? On this point. On everything else I would need to contact my lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Interesting Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: On this point. On everything else I would need to contact my lawyers. Your lawyers must have a tough time knowing what it is they are defending as it does change quite a lot 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 15 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said: I am saying just to use one of them for the conference, not all of them. They have heaps of time and as I have said, and shown, before many do not even do constituency surgeries in the summer recess. I thought Labour wanted to change people perception of politics and make the politicians 'serve' again. How is coming back off a break and then having another break to blow your own trumpet serving? If they really want change then they could give lots of change with ease but I guarantee little or nothing in Parliamentary procedure will even get suggest for change after their review is finished. They may have plenty of time off but I wouldn’t want the job even for that salary. I work 37.5 hours a week and I can guarantee most MPs work significantly more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said: Your lawyers must have a tough time knowing what it is they are defending as it does change quite a lot 😉 I guess I could direct them to a certain forum and they could then determine who is doing the bullshitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Interesting Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) 11 minutes ago, steviewevie said: I guess I could direct them to a certain forum and they could then determine who is doing the bullshitting. That would be interesting as they saw posts from you contradicting other posts from you LOL There are some cracking ones out there where you said things you now deny ever saying and accuse people of making sh*t up. Personally I think you post so much you forget what you have said where hence the problems of what others might see as contradiction. On July 27th you said that 'In hindsight' you thought Labour should not have agreed to keep the NI cut so prior to that you thought they should keep it (unless you are using the word hindsight wrongly) but then when I raise such stuff you get angry and accuse me of making sh*t up. You also, at the start of March, posted about how Labour would have to raise taxes etc after getting elected with a landslide saying things are much worse than they thought - so you knew then things were bad, like we all did cos we too had read the IFS reports at the time but then later you deny ever saying such things. I wonder how many other forums and chats etc you post in to the degree you do here and how you keep track of what you thought and when you thought it. It is so easy to look back and then question a change of view but it is very hard to then have any discussion when you just get accused of 'making sh*t up' when it is absolutely not the case. Anyway, as always I am now off line (as I tend to be this time of night) and as always you will probably insult me and then Neil can down vote me too (oh the pain). Have fun, contradict yourself all you want - I am quite happy that I am right as I have read the posts to which I refer. Ta ta Edited September 2 by Nobody Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 47 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said: That would be interesting as they saw posts from you contradicting other posts from you LOL There are some cracking ones out there where you said things you now deny ever saying and accuse people of making sh*t up. Personally I think you post so much you forget what you have said where hence the problems of what others might see as contradiction. On July 27th you said that 'In hindsight' you thought Labour should not have agreed to keep the NI cut so prior to that you thought they should keep it (unless you are using the word hindsight wrongly) but then when I raise such stuff you get angry and accuse me of making sh*t up. You also, at the start of March, posted about how Labour would have to raise taxes etc after getting elected with a landslide saying things are much worse than they thought - so you knew then things were bad, like we all did cos we too had read the IFS reports at the time but then later you deny ever saying such things. I wonder how many other forums and chats etc you post in to the degree you do here and how you keep track of what you thought and when you thought it. It is so easy to look back and then question a change of view but it is very hard to then have any discussion when you just get accused of 'making sh*t up' when it is absolutely not the case. Anyway, as always I am now off line (as I tend to be this time of night) and as always you will probably insult me and then Neil can down vote me too (oh the pain). Have fun, contradict yourself all you want - I am quite happy that I am right as I have read the posts to which I refer. Ta ta f**kin'ell. My lawyers will be in touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said: That would be interesting as they saw posts from you contradicting other posts from you LOL There are some cracking ones out there where you said things you now deny ever saying and accuse people of making sh*t up. Personally I think you post so much you forget what you have said where hence the problems of what others might see as contradiction. On July 27th you said that 'In hindsight' you thought Labour should not have agreed to keep the NI cut so prior to that you thought they should keep it (unless you are using the word hindsight wrongly) but then when I raise such stuff you get angry and accuse me of making sh*t up. You also, at the start of March, posted about how Labour would have to raise taxes etc after getting elected with a landslide saying things are much worse than they thought - so you knew then things were bad, like we all did cos we too had read the IFS reports at the time but then later you deny ever saying such things. I wonder how many other forums and chats etc you post in to the degree you do here and how you keep track of what you thought and when you thought it. It is so easy to look back and then question a change of view but it is very hard to then have any discussion when you just get accused of 'making sh*t up' when it is absolutely not the case. Anyway, as always I am now off line (as I tend to be this time of night) and as always you will probably insult me and then Neil can down vote me too (oh the pain). Have fun, contradict yourself all you want - I am quite happy that I am right as I have read the posts to which I refer. Ta ta I denied saying that they shouldn't raise NI..NI. what is your beef? Some weird childish sh*t to be honest...bit sick of it. I couldn't imagine arguing this bollocks as I get close to retirement... Edited September 2 by steviewevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 Govts suspension of some arms sales to Israel managed to piss off all sides of the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 it is ok to change your mind 🙂 ..... MY MP has clearly been working over the Summer and getting out into the constituency , theres jobs advertised in his office and unlike the previous Tory MP who only ever bothered with an election coming up . I remember Ozanne saying the Torys play politics on easy mode a few times and hadn't quite remembered the amount of hate levelled at Labour by the Tory press and others . As ever theres some stuff that I dont agree with with new govt but the amount of sh*t they get far outweighs what is sensible a few months into a new govt ... fortunately its early days and the new choice of Tory leader is also looking like an absolute mess , along with the reform lot hardly making any efforts to be constituency MPs much like Dorries . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 Will today's tragedy in the channel force both sides to actually do something about these small boats? Surely France can do more to stop them, and there really needs to be a serious conservation about safe routes and allocations etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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clarkete Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 Hopefully Grenfell is going to get the news coverage it deserves next week when the final report is producedhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62305qx946o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 Not sure the blame tories for everything line is going to last that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 never had it so good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 18 hours ago, clarkete said: Hopefully Grenfell is going to get the news coverage it deserves next week when the final report is producedhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62305qx946o lots of blame to spread around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 (edited) On 9/2/2024 at 7:26 PM, Nobody Interesting said: That would be interesting as they saw posts from you contradicting other posts from you LOL There are some cracking ones out there where you said things you now deny ever saying and accuse people of making sh*t up. Personally I think you post so much you forget what you have said where hence the problems of what others might see as contradiction. On July 27th you said that 'In hindsight' you thought Labour should not have agreed to keep the NI cut so prior to that you thought they should keep it (unless you are using the word hindsight wrongly) but then when I raise such stuff you get angry and accuse me of making sh*t up. You also, at the start of March, posted about how Labour would have to raise taxes etc after getting elected with a landslide saying things are much worse than they thought - so you knew then things were bad, like we all did cos we too had read the IFS reports at the time but then later you deny ever saying such things. I wonder how many other forums and chats etc you post in to the degree you do here and how you keep track of what you thought and when you thought it. It is so easy to look back and then question a change of view but it is very hard to then have any discussion when you just get accused of 'making sh*t up' when it is absolutely not the case. Anyway, as always I am now off line (as I tend to be this time of night) and as always you will probably insult me and then Neil can down vote me too (oh the pain). Have fun, contradict yourself all you want - I am quite happy that I am right as I have read the posts to which I refer. Ta ta my lawyers came back with this Edited September 4 by steviewevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 (edited) 21 hours ago, steviewevie said: Will today's tragedy in the channel force both sides to actually do something about these small boats? Surely France can do more to stop them, and there really needs to be a serious conservation about safe routes and allocations etc. the French interior minister has said it our fault and blamed our economy and said its too attractive. Too many opportunites in the grey deliveroo driver and turkish barber shop sectors. Edited September 4 by lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 24 minutes ago, lost said: the French interior minister has said it our fault and blamed our economy and said its too attractive. Too many opportunites in the grey deliveroo driver and turkish barber shop sectors. wow. well whatever the reason it's time they considered safe routes so people don't die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 (edited) 39 minutes ago, steviewevie said: wow. well whatever the reason it's time they considered safe routes so people don't die. If as the French are suggesting they are economic migrants then safe routes wouldn't help. The issue seems to be people who know they can make good money whilst in the grey economy, no point in applying for asylum and potentially being rejected. Edited September 4 by lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 10 minutes ago, lost said: If as the French are suggesting they are economic migrants then safe routes wouldn't help. The issue seems to be people who know they can make good money whilst in the grey economy, no point in applying for asylum and potentially being rejected. well they apply for asylum when they come here anyway...unless they just disappear from these hotels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 ..and this bit about what french minister bloke said... so yeah maybe they want to come here because they could likely get asylum accepted being from those countries listed..and could then find work. So, if accepted on our side of channel, and if then can work...then why not safe routes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 (plus, this is ignoring the children and pregnant woman who were amongst the people who died on that boat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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