UK Politics

[steviewevie]

This is a good explainer on what Labour's economic policy might be...

https://iandunt.substack.com/p/ok-so-what-the-hell-actually-is-labours

[lost]

A simple stroke of the pen and the Tories left labour a £28bn surplus:

 

 

[steviewevie]

32 minutes ago, lost said:

A simple stroke of the pen and the Tories left labour a £28bn surplus:

 

 

no, still a hole in departmental spending...but can borrow more to invest now.

[lost]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

no, still a hole in departmental spending...but can borrow more to invest now.

 

Theres no such thing as day to day spending gilts and investing gilts, just gilts.

[Neil]

im not surprised by the al fayed stuff, it was well documented in a tom bowyer biography of fayed, years ago, similarly, for branson, so i reckon he's next for exposing.

Edited September 27 by Neil

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

doesn't hold back...

she's a controversial and divisive MP, proper marmite, and many will question her timing and her motives and wish her good riddance...but still, not great for Starmer.

Edited September 28 by steviewevie

[kaosmark2]

She's more suited to sit with Galloway anyway.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

doesn't hold back...

she's a controversial and divisive MP, proper marmite, and many will question her timing and her motives and wish her good riddance...but still, not great for Starmer.

her complaints are nothing i expected of starmer. thought he was smart enough not to f**k up like that.

[pink_triangle]

It looks like she is just throwing everything against the wall here. To me in the grand scale of things the freebies is pretty irrelevant. If she had been handed a cabinet position I suspect she would be thinking differently, maybe looking for a GB news job?

[Neil]

18 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It looks like she is just throwing everything against the wall here. To me in the grand scale of things the freebies is pretty irrelevant. If she had been handed a cabinet position I suspect she would be thinking differently, maybe looking for a GB news job?

she's over reacting, but at the same time, the freebies are so unnecessary, starmer should have known not to take them!

[steviewevie]

She's all upset about the 2 child cap but that was labour policy before the election, why not quit then?

[steviewevie]

Tory leadership election suddenly looking more important...and what a choice.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, pink_triangle said:

It looks like she is just throwing everything against the wall here. To me in the grand scale of things the freebies is pretty irrelevant. If she had been handed a cabinet position I suspect she would be thinking differently, maybe looking for a GB news job?

We'll see..I think there is a fairly big risk this freebie thing will stick. Not 100% Starmer will be PM going into next election.

[pink_triangle]

41 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

We'll see..I think there is a fairly big risk this freebie thing will stick. Not 100% Starmer will be PM going into next election.

It will only stick if Labour don’t do a good job in power, if Labour do a good job then nobody will care. What’s incredibly hypocritical is some of these journalists banging on about it, you can guarantee they take every freebie going.

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It will only stick if Labour don’t do a good job in power, if Labour do a good job then nobody will care. What’s incredibly hypocritical is some of these journalists banging on about it, you can guarantee they take every freebie going.

Yeah it's all hypocritical and unfair but labour are held to different standards, and that is partly their own doing.

Agree about if they do a good job it won't be an issue, but not sure how much of a difference they can realistically make in 4 or 5:years with the state of things.

Edited September 28 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

Anyway WW3 is a good distraction.

[steviewevie]

 

[Neil]

12 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Tory leadership election suddenly looking more important...and what a choice.

a selection of horrid. 

[lost]

Badenoch and Jenrick look the favourties though we could see a run off between one right winger and one centrist.

 

Jenrick looks to be getting some support back from the reform lot after Farage said mass deportation of illegal immigrants is a political impossibility.

[steviewevie]

23 minutes ago, lost said:

Badenoch and Jenrick look the favourties though we could see a run off between one right winger and one centrist.

 

Jenrick looks to be getting some support back from the reform lot after Farage said mass deportation of illegal immigrants is a political impossibility.

Wasn't long ago when Jenrick was a wishy washy liberal one nation wet. Maybe he's had his eyes on the prize last few years and knew he had to be that nasty right wing man to win over the membership and once he's in power he'll be all cameron. Yes Tories need to win back support from Reform, but they'd probably have more joy winning over disillusioned labour voters.

[steviewevie]

[kaosmark2]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I mean, this is one of 2 loopholes that Sky used to publish that graph that "showed" Starmer to take comfortably the most. 

 

The other being that they only showed current MPs - taking out obvious scroungers like Boris and all the other Tories who lost their seats in the election.

[steviewevie]

24 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

I mean, this is one of 2 loopholes that Sky used to publish that graph that "showed" Starmer to take comfortably the most. 

 

The other being that they only showed current MPs - taking out obvious scroungers like Boris and all the other Tories who lost their seats in the election.

They obviously want to show they're doing something.