UK Politics

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25 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

So...is an employers NI rise breaking a manifesto pledge?

 

Not great for the "growth" pledge. Will also probably hasten the demise of a bunch more borderline industries e.g pubs , high street shops etc..

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34 minutes ago, lost said:

 

Not great for the "growth" pledge. Will also probably hasten the demise of a bunch more borderline industries e.g pubs , high street shops etc..

don't care about any of that.

 

Does it break a manifesto pledge?

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people have moved on ffs ..... guess this is where the Lib dems gain more seats at the next General Election .... absolutely bonkers stuff 

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6 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

people have moved on ffs ..... guess this is where the Lib dems gain more seats at the next General Election .... absolutely bonkers stuff 

I think this is right actually...for now...brexit was such a messy and damaging process do we really want to go through all that again...I reckon appreciate it is damaging is a good start to trying to find ways to resolve it...and you never know, Kemi might start moves for us to rejoin the EU in 2035...and then maybe the ECHR.

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1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

I think this is right actually...for now...brexit was such a messy and damaging process do we really want to go through all that again...I reckon appreciate it is damaging is a good start to trying to find ways to resolve it...and you never know, Kemi might start moves for us to rejoin the EU in 2035...and then maybe the ECHR.

nah ... how can we be scrabbling around for economic benefits when the biggest one is smacking us in the face , how much damage do we need to do to the country before someone speaks honestly about it , rather than making assumptions about what people may want ... the polling is in the rejoin direction now . Mad to have another referendum tbh think we should just do whats necessary over whatever time period , but realistically if / when it happens it will be a vote 

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I'm not sure rejoin would win when people realised it wouldn't be under the conditions we left rather those laid out under the lisbon treaty e.g. losing the veto, having to dump the pound for the euro etc..

 

Think the best we can get is single market alignment which when we won't have any say about the rules is probably why labour are swerving it.

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plus all those seats Labour loses to Reform in the red wall....

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The Chancellor Game: Can you mastermind a UK Budget? (ft.com)

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back to the drawing board

 

just stick up income tax ffs...they'll forget about it in a year or so when WW3 is the main concern.

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I'm sure I remember Johnson/Sunak putting up NI and breaking a manifesto pledge and no one seemed to give a sh*t.

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word on the street is Starmer has been having an affair with Taylor Swift.

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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

I'm sure I remember Johnson/Sunak putting up NI and breaking a manifesto pledge and no one seemed to give a sh*t.

 

Rachel Reeves did:

 

 

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1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

word on the street is Starmer has been having an affair with Taylor Swift.

This the Fonz? Because I think this thread has jumped the shark

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9 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

. It is possible that the truth will come out now he is gone and it is possible it will not. thought he was a bit of a c un t

you can't libel the dead - so i expect to see things that you wouldn't have seen if he was still alive.

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this could have been happening just before an election...

 

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inflation figures means triple lock pension will rise by more than double that of working age benefits...so scrap that 2 child benefit cap and keep means testing the winter fuel payments I reckon.

(trouble is kids don't vote like pensioners do)

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First step to assisted dying possibly becoming legal starts today 

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Ho hum

 

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Both parties spending the "getting people back into work" money. Labour are going to start jabbing the unemployed with ozempic apparently.

 

 

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Starmer keeps calling Sunak Prime Minister in PMQs.

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Apparently ministers have gone crying to Starmer cause they're scared of that bully Reeves.

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They've f**ked it...too many promises and pledges they can't keep. There will be some tax rises and some austerity but also some money for NHS and schools and investments but no one will be happy ever again.

Amen.

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The Telegraph thinks property is going to be exempt from the CGT rises.

 

So that'll be the only thing people want to invest in then. House prices to infinity?