UK Politics

[mattiloy]

 

 

 

[steviewevie]

So shareholders and property owners aren't working people. Becoming clearer now.

[kaosmark2]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

So shareholders and property owners aren't working people. Becoming clearer now.

 

I wonder whether this will change when Starmer realises it affects his own landlord earnings.

 

Whether Labour MPs have principles will be tested by how much this gets watered down.

[steviewevie]

15 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

I wonder whether this will change when Starmer realises it affects his own landlord earnings.

 

err..ok..

[steviewevie]

The point is the definition of working people that Starmer is floundering to explain...instead of just being clear that they are not going to increases on taxes from work, but are going to increase them on earnings from stock or property or whatever...in other words capital gains. Not sure why he has to continue to be so vague as if it's all tricks and traps.

[fraybentos1]

1 hour ago, kaosmark2 said:

 

I wonder whether this will change when Starmer realises it affects his own landlord earnings.

 

Whether Labour MPs have principles will be tested by how much this gets watered down.

you got a source for him being a landlord?

[kaosmark2]

41 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

you got a source for him being a landlord?

This was common knowledge ~a year ago, obviously searching now is all coming up with quotes about today.

[fraybentos1]

10 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

This was common knowledge ~a year ago, obviously searching now is all coming up with quotes about today.

hmm surely if it common knowledge you'd be able to find a source? I've personally not heard it before

[steviewevie]

Just realised that the reason they're not putting up income tax is because they'd have to pay it!

[kaosmark2]

40 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

hmm surely if it common knowledge you'd be able to find a source? I've personally not heard it before

My google-fu isn't able to overload recency bias. I might try again later.

[steviewevie]

Maybe it's the donkey sanctuary field the Mail were all over a few years ago.

[steviewevie]

I was very much against these freeport things when they were coming out of the tory government, but now it's labour I very much support them.

 

[kaosmark2]

Well he's not on the list of registered landlords now, and while I remember him being on that, and it being referenced, it seems he's sold any rental properties he might've had.

[Neil]

On 10/23/2024 at 9:06 AM, mattiloy said:

 

 

 

I'm waiting for the sewerage complainers to show me their bottomless containers to cope with any amount of rainfall 

[steviewevie]

Apparently Reeves going to increase employers NI by 2%, so in effect reversing Hunt's NI cuts.

[steviewevie]

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[kaosmark2]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

To me this shows how ill-informed the public is.

 

The issue with the NHS isn't the amount that's spent on it, it's how inefficient the spend is because of cuts elsewhere and poor management by the Tories.

 

The Cameron/Osbourne cuts to social care, and NHS support staff, have created an unhealthier society, where people don't get basic care outside of the NHS, so need to turn to it more often and things are more serious when they do. Add in doctors and nurses having to do more sh*tty admin tasks themselves instead of having a network of support staff doing most of it, and it's created inefficiency, disillusionment, and poor service.

 

Add in that the Tories then saw this problem, and their solution was to hire their mates to run "Integrated Care Boards" that oversaw the management of each region's NHS, on huge salaries and badly.

 

Ditch ICBs, get admin staff and middle management back in, and fund social care.

[steviewevie]

I thought people cared about potholes 

[steviewevie]

Quite sweet that the nationalists, white supremacists and racists like to call themselves Patriots now...just like in the good old us of a.

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[steviewevie]

[steviewevie]

from

The public’s surprising choice of tax increase, and why we should ignore it - Tax Policy Associates

[Neil]

4 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

fund social care.

that means restoring local govt funding, which doesn't score well above.