International Politics

[Skip997]

On 12/10/2024 at 9:42 AM, steviewevie said:

Israel trying to f**k things up.

As they do 

[GhostOfMaurice]

On 12/10/2024 at 3:51 PM, steviewevie said:

I mean this is always used an excuse...kill them before they kill us etc...but maybe they've pushed that a bit far recently....

 

If anyone is entitled to use that "excuse" at this moment in time, it's Israel. 

[steviewevie]

9 hours ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

If anyone is entitled to use that "excuse" at this moment in time, it's Israel. 

I guess someone in Palestine might think they have this same excuse.

Edited Thursday at 07:31 AM by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

This is going to be a bit of a thing with Trump on the way...some countries are going to struggle to meet that 3% target (including us)

[lost]

Huge issue. Infact without Nato, I'm not sure the european social democratic model would even work?

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, lost said:

Huge issue. Infact without Nato, I'm not sure the european social democratic model would even work?

I think Europe might need to stop thinking they can always rely on US to provide their security.

[GhostOfMaurice]

3 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I guess someone in Palestine might think they have this same excuse.

 

That's why the whole situation needs diplomacy from that outside and pressure to back down.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

That's why the whole situation needs diplomacy from that outside and pressure to back down.

yes, diplomacy...which is exactly what is need in Syria at this delicate time...not land grab and blow up all their weapons.

[Skip997]

15 hours ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

If anyone is entitled to use that "excuse" at this moment in time, it's Israel. 

FFS

 

Israeli is deliberately engaging in genocide. If you don’t believe me, how about the ICC?

[doogie]

4 hours ago, Skip997 said:

FFS

 

Israeli is deliberately engaging in genocide. If you don’t believe me, how about the ICC?

 

I must have missed the bit where the ICC (or the ICJ) actually ruled that Israel had engaged in genocide, because I don't believe it has.

[Skip997]

4 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

I must have missed the bit where the ICC (or the ICJ) actually ruled that Israel had engaged in genocide, because I don't believe it has.

I must have misread or misunderstood the bit where it clearly did 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

I must have missed the bit where the ICC (or the ICJ) actually ruled that Israel had engaged in genocide, because I don't believe it has.

No, it hasn't.

But it probably will...surely you can see that.

There was an argument that they weren't last winter...but that doesn't hold up now...directing people to safe areas and then bombing those areas, limiting aid etc.

I am not against Israel existing, and I understand why they feel to go above and beyond in protecting themselves because of existential threats made by some groups or regimes, because of what has happened in past, and the Oct 7th attacks were horrific, but what they have carried out in last 12 months is abhorrent. A lot of this is Netanyahu and others in his government. I don't wish death on people as a rule, but I want someone to kill Netanyahu. He is a major c**t. Most of the world would likely celebrate too, including many in Israel I expect.

Edited Thursday at 05:47 PM by steviewevie

[doogie]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

No, it hasn't.

But it probably will...surely you can see that.

There was an argument that they weren't last winter...but that doesn't hold up now...directing people to safe areas and then bombing those areas, limiting aid etc.

I am not against Israel existing, and there I understand why they feel to go above and beyond in protecting themselves because of existential threats made by some groups or regimes, and the Oct 7th attacks were horrific, but what they have carried out in last 12 months is abhorrent. A lot of this is Netanyahu and others in his government. I don't wish death on people as a rule, but I want someone to kill Netanyahu. He is a major c**t. Most of the world would likely celebrate too, including many in Israel I expect.

 

We can't assume they will as it's rightly a high bar, and it's particularly emotive when directed at the Jewish state, given the tragic history of the Jews over the years.

 

I agree Netanyahu is a c**t, but he's no worse than a lot of other c**t leaders around the world.

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

We can't assume they will as it's rightly a high bar, and it's particularly emotive when directed at the Jewish state, given the tragic history of the Jews over the years.

 

I agree Netanyahu is a c**t, but he's no worse than a lot of other c**t leaders around the world.

I listened to a pretty interesting podcast about him the other day...his whole family thing, the amount of time he spent in the US, and the fact he has been so successful at the same time as being so disliked.

 

[steviewevie]

51 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

We can't assume they will as it's rightly a high bar, and it's particularly emotive when directed at the Jewish state, given the tragic history of the Jews over the years.

 

I agree Netanyahu is a c**t, but he's no worse than a lot of other c**t leaders around the world.

Also .he happens to be someone who is an ally, someone the west supports...which makes the liberal western democracies look even more self serving, barbaric colonialists than they already did.

[GhostOfMaurice]

8 hours ago, steviewevie said:

yes, diplomacy...which is exactly what is need in Syria at this delicate time...not land grab and blow up all their weapons.

 

They need calming influences from the outside. Because you can see why the nations closest to this are acting like they are.

 

The last thing they need is outsiders (like yourself?) taking sides and escalating matters.

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

They need calming influences from the outside. Because you can see why the nations closest to this are acting like they are.

 

The last thing they need is outsiders (like yourself?) taking sides and escalating matters.

Like me? It isn't me who was bombing sites in Syria and taking more land in Golan heights just in case.

[steviewevie]

[GhostOfMaurice]

17 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Like me? It isn't me who was bombing sites in Syria and taking more land in Golan heights just in case.

 

So you say...

[steviewevie]

Israel launches dozens of airstrikes on Syria despite rebel leader's peace pledge | Syria | The Guardian

 

I guess Israel using same reasoning that Putin did with his denazification self defence thing before invading Ukraine.