International Politics

[kaosmark2]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

why families? These pagers were given to Hezbollah to communicate with each other because mobile phones could be tracked.

and where do you get virtually all injured were civilians from?

oh, I'd seen the line "mostly civilians" on the guardian earlier.

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

oh, I'd seen the line "mostly civilians" on the guardian earlier.

yeah, I expect some civilians injured...but these were pagers used by Hezbollah for security reasons...most ordinary civilians wouldn't be using pagers. There are a lot of Hezbollah, so not surprised casualty number is so high, and the two kids killed were children of Hezbollah.  But, like Hamas, not all Hezbollah are necessarily fighters, and they have family who might have pagers, and they would have been in public places...so...

The injuries sound grim, loss of eyes and limbs etc.

 

The big worry is further escalation, but Israel seem to want that.

[steviewevie]

apparently the plan was to detonate these as part of an all out offensive against Hezbollah...but they went early because Hezbollah had just become aware of it.

[steviewevie]

Now walkie talkies blowing up.

Blimey.

[steviewevie]

and now Israel saying they are going to focus on the north....so not sure what that means for Gaza, and what that means for Lebanon.

[Crazyfool01]

Next level scary sh*t this . What’s it gonna take for America to stop exporting them arms … and us for that matter not that us makes any difference . 

[doogie]

1 hour ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Next level scary sh*t this . What’s it gonna take for America to stop exporting them arms … and us for that matter not that us makes any difference . 

 

What it takes is for Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest of them to recognise and make peace with Israel like Egypt, Jordan and others have.

 

Can't see it happening any time soon though.

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

What it takes is for Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest of them to recognise and make peace with Israel like Egypt, Jordan and others have.

 

Can't see it happening any time soon though.

Especially when Israel keeps blowing them up

[Crazyfool01]

13 minutes ago, doogie said:

 

What it takes is for Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest of them to recognise and make peace with Israel like Egypt, Jordan and others have.

 

Can't see it happening any time soon though.

nah it needs the removal of Netanyahu .. 

[doogie]

25 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

nah it needs the removal of Netanyahu .. 

Netanyahu will probably lose the next election whenever it comes, and it won't make any difference.

 

It's Iran and its proxies that are the biggest barrier to peace in the region.

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by doogie

[steviewevie]

11 hours ago, doogie said:

Netanyahu will probably lose the next election whenever it comes, and it won't make any difference.

 

It's Iran and its proxies that are the biggest barrier to peace in the region.

 

 

First thing that needs to happen is a ceasefire in Gaza..and then somehow from there negotiations for a future for that region needs to start, with all sides taking part. That's what needs to happen, but looks impossible at moment.