Climate Change

[steviewevie]

14 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

If we carry on (the world over) how we are now and by that I mean the rate of reduction etc this is a map of the UK in 2100

Hope you can swim.

quite like that

[kerplunk]

4 hours ago, steviewevie said:

quite like that

Except it's a bonkers wildly unrealistic and unsupportable outlook.

Appears to be what the UK would look like if all the ice sheets on earth melted completely causing sea levels to rise by 70m.

Even if the world warmed enough for that to happen (quite unlikely) it would take many thousands of years.

 

[kerplunk]

On 2/19/2024 at 8:30 AM, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Pretty much all as predicted in the 1990's, only around 10 years sooner than they thought...................... a huge escalation in change as tipping points are reached and passed.

If you want to despress yourself look at those predictions and then look at those for 2050 if little or nothing is done. We are on course for those in 2035-2040 at the moment.

Which 10yrs sooner than thought 1990's predictions are you referring to here?

[Nobody Interesting]

34 minutes ago, kerplunk said:

Which 10yrs sooner than thought 1990's predictions are you referring to here?

The weather from 2023 - predicted 2030-2035 for one...................... all over the world things were far sooner.

The info is out there and really easy to find. Loads on the UN website for example as well as the BBC and other news websites.

[kerplunk]

 

 

3 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

The info is out there and really easy to find.

Right, I think I'll just disregard your claim as unsupported

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, kerplunk said:

 

 

Right, I think I'll just disregard your claim as unsupported

Good grief a denier in our midst then

In case your head was buried too deep in the sand then it is public knowledge that in 2023 the world breached 1.5 degrees rise for the entire year. It was on the news, it is on the UN reports, it was talked about at COP. That alone supports my statement as that was not originally thought likely un til 2035.

If think that even if I now take time to find you, and Neil (who gave you an upvote) who thinks he is green cos he does not fly but is actually more a Tory) I think it likely you will then find me some nice youtube videos saying what I have linked is not true.
I have these discussions lots hence knowing where it leads and the normal outcomes - if I am wrong then I am sorry but seriously, the news is out there and really is so very easy to find.

Here are just a few links you could follow.................. but probably will not

https://www.pressenza.com/2024/02/world-breaches-1-5c-for-an-entire-year-for-first-time-on-record/
https://www.ft.com/content/8927424e-2828-4414-86b7-f3a991214288
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68110310
https://www.unep.org/resources/report/climate-change-2023-synthesis-report
https://wmo.int/publication-series/provisional-state-of-global-climate-2023
https://www.unep.org/resources/emissions-gap-report-2023
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/

and loads more reports here
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/reports

and here are lots of useful facts for all deniers out there
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/mythbusters
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/

Here are some links to predictions vs reality too
All so easy to find if you want to - whihc you didn't
https://theconversation.com/40-years-ago-scientists-predicted-climate-change-and-hey-they-were-right-120502
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming/
https://eps.harvard.edu/files/eps/files/hausfather_2020_evaluating_historical_gmst_projections.pdf
https://www.climatecentral.org/news/ipcc-predictions-then-versus-now-15340


Have  a nice day

 

[Neil]

All that cos someone dared to disagree with you. 

[steviewevie]

Yeah but is that map of Britain in 2100 realistic? Because not sure catastrophising with unrealistic worst case scenarios helps the cause.

[Nobody Interesting]

17 minutes ago, Neil said:

All that cos someone dared to disagree with you. 

No, cos they wanted links and could not be bothered to find them................... nice try scoring petty points. Go eat your beef sandwich and moan at people smiling

[Nobody Interesting]

13 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Yeah but is that map of Britain in 2100 realistic? Because not sure catastrophising with unrealistic worst case scenarios helps the cause.

It is 100% realistic based on the path the world is now on and the science they used on sea levels rising etc to produce it. If we change path then it gets worse or better. Stay the same, welcome to your watery grave.

I tend to trust science, cos science has saved loads of us many times over already.

[Neil]

3 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

. nice try scoring petty points.

you with every post, like where you presumed he was a denier cos he disagreed with you, for all you know he knows more about climate change than you.

Edited February 25 by Neil

[Nobody Interesting]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

you with every post, like where you presumed he was a denier cos he disagreed with you, for all you know he knows more about climate change than you.

When you spend 25 plus years dealing with deniers etc you know how they work................ and trust me, I know how they work, but you won't believe that will you.

Did you read all the links after you upvoted his dismissing post? No, of course you didn't

Do you eat meat?

I know @fraybentos1has asked this lost but you always ignore it.

[steviewevie]

Quite like all those islands if true...will it be tropical?

[Paul ™]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Quite like all those islands if true...will it be tropical?

Extra couple of degrees going by the claims...

[steviewevie]

This is what is going to happen.

 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

When you spend 25 plus years dealing with deniers etc you know how they work................ and trust me, I know how they work, but you won't believe that will you.

Did you read all the links after you upvoted his dismissing post? No, of course you didn't

Do you eat meat?

I know @fraybentos1has asked this lost but you always ignore it.

a portion of vegetable matter creates the same methane, whether from a cow or a vegan, (you'll have a point when you've got fart-free beans.)

land has been cleared for cattle and land has been cleared for vegetables.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

Quite like all those islands if true...will it be tropical?

 

1 hour ago, Paul ™ said:

Extra couple of degrees going by the claims...

If main predictions are correct then it will be colder and wetter.

The Gulf Stream will weaken and likely move meaning we get a more Japan like climate with very cold winters.

Enjoy

[Nobody Interesting]

30 minutes ago, Neil said:

a portion of vegetable matter creates the same methane, whether from a cow or a vegan, (you'll have a point when you've got fart-free beans.)

land has been cleared for cattle and land has been cleared for vegetables.

So still no reply and still false info.

Yes all food produces human gasses but it is not those that are the problem.

Beef production takes 20 times more land to produce the same quantity of food as vegatable does and beef production is responsible for 90% of deforestation as they need to grow Soya to feed the cattle - so even more land is used to feed cattle so humans can eat beef.

Still, facts never bother you when you want to try and make  a point and this time I really cannot be bothered to find you all the links - which are really easy to find - as you will just ignore them like you ignore the question DO YOU EAT MEAT?

 

Edited February 25 by Crazyfool01
unnecessary

[Paul ™]

29 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

If main predictions are correct then it will be colder and wetter.

The Gulf Stream will weaken and likely move meaning we get a more Japan like climate with very cold winters.

Enjoy

Whats the prediction for Goa? It's where I spend the winter..get here on a big guzzly aeroplane ✈️

Edited February 25 by Paul ™

[gizmoman]

On 2/24/2024 at 5:59 PM, Nobody Interesting said:

If we carry on (the world over) how we are now and by that I mean the rate of reduction etc this is a map of the UK in 2100

Hope you can swim.

900 years earlier than previous predictions, not much has changed but we live underwater.

[Neil]

51 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

beef production is responsible for 90% of deforestation

a number arrived at by a careful choosing of facts - by ignoring the fact of places like the UK cleared of forest for growing crops!!!

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

If main predictions are correct then it will be colder and wetter.

The Gulf Stream will weaken and likely move meaning we get a more Japan like climate with very cold winters.

Enjoy

Colder but the ice still melts?

[kerplunk]

5 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Good grief a denier in our midst then

In case your head was buried too deep in the sand then it is public knowledge that in 2023 the world breached 1.5 degrees rise for the entire year. It was on the news, it is on the UN reports, it was talked about at COP. That alone supports my statement as that was not originally thought likely un til 2035.

If think that even if I now take time to find you, and Neil (who gave you an upvote) who thinks he is green cos he does not fly but is actually more a Tory) I think it likely you will then find me some nice youtube videos saying what I have linked is not true.
I have these discussions lots hence knowing where it leads and the normal outcomes - if I am wrong then I am sorry but seriously, the news is out there and really is so very easy to find.

Here are just a few links you could follow.................. but probably will not

https://www.pressenza.com/2024/02/world-breaches-1-5c-for-an-entire-year-for-first-time-on-record/
https://www.ft.com/content/8927424e-2828-4414-86b7-f3a991214288
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68110310
https://www.unep.org/resources/report/climate-change-2023-synthesis-report
https://wmo.int/publication-series/provisional-state-of-global-climate-2023
https://www.unep.org/resources/emissions-gap-report-2023
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/

and loads more reports here
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/reports

and here are lots of useful facts for all deniers out there
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/mythbusters
https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/

Here are some links to predictions vs reality too
All so easy to find if you want to - whihc you didn't
https://theconversation.com/40-years-ago-scientists-predicted-climate-change-and-hey-they-were-right-120502
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming/
https://eps.harvard.edu/files/eps/files/hausfather_2020_evaluating_historical_gmst_projections.pdf
https://www.climatecentral.org/news/ipcc-predictions-then-versus-now-15340


Have  a nice day

 

No support there for your 10yrs sooner than thought claim.

Where you're going wrong is the 1.5c above pre-industrial prediction isn't for when a short term el nino enhanced periods might hit that mark. If that was the case it happened already in 2016

 

[kerplunk]

5 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

When you spend 25 plus years dealing with deniers etc you know how they work................ and trust me, I know how they work, but you won't believe that will you.

Did you read all the links after you upvoted his dismissing post? No, of course you didn't

Do you eat meat?

I know @fraybentos1has asked this lost but you always ignore it.

25 years?

Difficult to understand then how you came to be posting laughably absurd sea level rise predictions.

Up your game - it's embarassing!

 

 

 

 

Edited February 25 by kerplunk

[Nobody Interesting]

11 hours ago, kerplunk said:

No support there for your 10yrs sooner than thought claim.

Where you're going wrong is the 1.5c above pre-industrial prediction isn't for when a short term el nino enhanced periods might hit that mark. If that was the case it happened already in 2016

 

 

11 hours ago, kerplunk said:

25 years?

Difficult to understand then how you came to be posting laughably absurd sea level rise predictions.

Up your game - it's embarassing!

 

 

 

 

and as I said, seen your sort lots before........ even when given proof you ignore or dismiss it. The lower links have the evidence of 1990's predictions vs today, it is there and is quite clear but you will not see it because you do not want to see it and will always just dismiss anything others say as rubbish whilst offering zero yourself.

El Nino effects will not effect the world fully until mid 2024 so 2023 has little or nothing to do with it - but as always, facts for you are to be ingnored.

Enjoy your sand where your head is buried.