Day splits/clashfinder

[LalanaCat]

4 hours ago, LowerMead said:

Been hanging on for day splits to see if there are any other additions to my taste but regrettably not.

 

I know line ups are subjective but there's nothing at all on the Sunday to float my boat, and only a couple of things on Fri or Sat. Altogether the weakest EoTR line-up for my personal tastes since I started going in 2009. I appreciate others think it is brilliant - horses for courses.

 

Faced with dropping £625 on it (2 x Tier 4 adult and 1 x Tier 4 child) we're going to give it a swerve this year, it will be the first year of non-attendance for me since 2009.  I'd already bought a large campervan ticket so will throw that at the mercy of Twickets resale whenever possible, I see those have sold out. 

 

I'll be interested to see how ticket sales go this year. My personal feeling is that it won't sell out, but I hope I am proved wrong.  At the moment there is lots of Tier 4 availability, but too steep for me considering what I want to see. My wife and son come mainly for the camping rather than the music (it's a bit too alternative for them), we use it as an opportunity to catch up with our group of EoTR buddies who meet up there once a year. In that respect it works out as a very expensive camping holiday for the two of them!  We'll probably do Latitude instead, much as I hate feeding the Festival Republic coffers, its line-up this year is a bit more suited to my wife and son, so we'll likely do that instead. Unfortunately the days of us doing both are long gone. 

 

Personal taste is personal taste... it's not really something you can argue with. But I don't get the impression that your feelings on the line-up are widely shared, or at least not on here. Last year there was a general agreement that the top rank of the line-up was a bit underwhelming, but this year lots of people (me definitely included) are pretty excited about it. My guess is that it will sell-out pretty early again but it's certainly pretty expensive... it's only worth going if you're feeling it.

[accordionandvoice]

yeah it's a really good line up,

[Memory Man]

Day splits out in may (vs june in 2023 and july in 2022) and im just this morning getting sponsored insta stories with the lineup poster on….

 

hardly a stretch to think its not selling as well as normal. £270 is a lot of money for this lineup. £285 for a couple sharing a car with parking.

its a great festival and well run but the lineup doesnt float my boat at all at the top end personally and aside from that its a glorified new bands festival.

 

i would spend almost all my time in the folly with a smattering of big top. Nothing on garden and hardly anything on woods. No value if you dont like the bigger names and as if youre getting in for stewart lee on the hill of death

 

i also think many smart people will have twigged that cheaper resale tickets in the week(s) leading up are likely

Edited May 10 by Memory Man

[xxialac]

27 minutes ago, Memory Man said:

the lineup doesnt float my boat at all at the top end personally and aside from that its a glorified new bands festival.

Are we talking about the same festival?!

 

What percentage of the midline on the poster (subs) are new bands?

 

And it’s a very middle class festival and people have higher disposable incomes than average. Confident it will sell out.

[zahidf]

Objectively, all the woods and Garden stage headliners are hammersmith apollo size, with Idles being arena size ( and headlining the second stage at glastonbury)

 

Aside from that, lower down the line up, top 3/4 are barbican/roundhouse size roughly.

 

People may not like the line up on an artistic basis ( i think its great), but its clearly one of their biggest line ups commercially. Id be very surprised if it didn't sell out well before the weekend. 

[SweepingTheNation]

52 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Objectively, all the woods and Garden stage headliners are hammersmith apollo size, with Idles being arena size ( and headlining the second stage at glastonbury)

 

Aside from that, lower down the line up, top 3/4 are barbican/roundhouse size roughly.

 

People may not like the line up on an artistic basis ( i think its great), but its clearly one of their biggest line ups commercially. Id be very surprised if it didn't sell out well before the weekend. 

 

CMAT is third down Woods and also headlining the 10k capacity Deer Shed.

 

Simon told the Guardian's piece about festival costs in February that 75% of tickets went before the first announcement. Quite aside from the bad faith takes going on, given the festival usually sells out in June/July (outside the Covid carry-over period) and there feels like more general excitement around the line-up than usual I'd be very surprised if it's that far away (and unless you have insider knowledge you can't possibly tell what the current level is, it's been at the final tier for ages)

[Memory Man]

3 hours ago, xxialac said:

Are we talking about the same festival?!

 

What percentage of the midline on the poster (subs) are new bands?

 

And it’s a very middle class festival and people have higher disposable incomes than average. Confident it will sell out.

Cmat is headlining a new bands festival in sheffield, for example

 

i know what you mean and its not true as such but it just so happens the top and middle names arent of much interest to me

[xxialac]

Just now, Memory Man said:

Cmat is headlining a new bands festival in sheffield, for example

 

i know what you mean and its not true as such but it just so happens the top and middle names arent of much interest to me

I wasn't talking about personal taste. Just that the undercard is the opposite of being focused on new bands. Maybe 10-15% of them are?

 

[Memory Man]

Theyre not new but most of them arent above headlining a £40 day fest

 

unfortunately the lineup just isnt for me this year. I fully appreciate that isnt the general consensus but i had the same feelings as the previous poster who said they wouldnt be going this year. Ive been to 2022 and 2023.

 

i may still go if very cheap tickets come up but theres nowhere near worth 270 quids worth of acts id want to see at this year’s eotr

 

if there is for you then great and i hope you have a lovely time!

Edited May 10 by Memory Man

[Llamasausage]

Its becoming a familiar theme on here. There's no denying its more money than similarly sized festivals, which is not good if your paying for a whole family who aren't that into it. If the line-ups not for you, and you are not happy about just going and hoping for a new discovery or two, then it is a hard sell.

 

I'm in the happy to go whatever camp, usually only bothered about 1 or 2 headliners. As I am extremely 'middle class' it's OK 😅

 

 

[Stillill42]

Last year was my first year so I'm posting this mostly as an outsider looking in. The debate about size of acts and value for money is slightly mental to me. Coming from a staple festival (Electric Picnic in Ireland) that went from a fantastic, interesting, diverse gathering in a beautiful spot to a 70,000 commercialised mess lacking any musical inventiveness, I was blown away by EOTR. The lack of commercialisation, the breath of the acts, everything I saw was interesting at worst, the beauty of the surroundings....it's an incredible event. I understand why it costs why it does. If you're feeling a bit down, compare this year's bill with this year's EP offering. I think it's a fantastic lineup, I don't care what these acts would pull outside the festival, I mean what we're Personal Trainer pulling this time last year? Or Divorce? Or the Courettes? All amazing last time out. You've an unbelievable festival there. I hope ye look after it.

[accordionandvoice]

some absolutely honking takes here lol.  it's clearly not a revolutionary festival, it's just a really nice time with a diverse and interesting line-up.

 

there's a lot of good more avant-garde and leftfield stuff, as well as a load of acts who aren't "glorified new bands" (i.e. cornelius, bonnie prince billy, mdou moctar, richard dawson, yo la tengo etc.)... as for a lot of the new acts (say blue lake, still house plants, tara clerkin trio) they're certainly not glorified or over hype.

 

it's an non-commercial, unsponsored, anti-corporate festival that hasn't sold itself out. not all of it is to everyone's taste (i personally detest idles and think anyone who likes them is a few pennies short of a pound) but who gives a damn. there's loads of great other sh*t on all weekend.

 

either enjoy the fest or shut up and don't go... 

[Hooskerdoo]

8 hours ago, accordionandvoice said:

some absolutely honking takes here lol.  it's clearly not a revolutionary festival, it's just a really nice time with a diverse and interesting line-up.

 

there's a lot of good more avant-garde and leftfield stuff, as well as a load of acts who aren't "glorified new bands" (i.e. cornelius, bonnie prince billy, mdou moctar, richard dawson, yo la tengo etc.)... as for a lot of the new acts (say blue lake, still house plants, tara clerkin trio) they're certainly not glorified or over hype.

 

it's an non-commercial, unsponsored, anti-corporate festival that hasn't sold itself out. not all of it is to everyone's taste (i personally detest idles and think anyone who likes them is a few pennies short of a pound) but who gives a damn. there's loads of great other sh*t on all weekend.

 

either enjoy the fest or shut up and don't go... 

Bit harsh maybe? I feel anybody should be able to voice an opinion, even a negative one, as long as they are not just shouting down anyone who disagrees. And we all know taste is subjective. But I'm as mystified as anybody else by the negativity. For me, the weakest day this year is better than the best day last year (great though last year turned out to be once the sun came out).

[robith]

People can voice an opinion for sure. I was very critical of the line up last year, and people kept telling me to be quiet. I think it's stonking this year, but if it's not for you, that's what makes the world go round.

 

But suggesting it's empirically weaker or unlikely to sell out is frankly ludicrous By any dimension you want to look at it, on paper in terms of size it's one of the biggest they've ever put on. Hell, I'm very anit-IDLES but they're possibly the biggest headliner in terms of current size they've ever had? Maybe second to Pixies?

[xxialac]

Is anyone having the same problem where you like seemingly every new band you listen to on the lineup?

They've really smashed it for six this year.

[accordionandvoice]

23 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Is anyone having the same problem where you like seemingly every new band you listen to on the lineup?

They've really smashed it for six this year.

Thankfully not! I like / am keen to see about 25 of them, which is perfect because i can enjoy without worrying too much about clashes 🙂

[Olshansky]

On 5/22/2024 at 1:00 PM, xxialac said:

Is anyone having the same problem where you like seemingly every new band you listen to on the lineup?

They've really smashed it for six this year.

 

yes, this.  clashes are going to be brutal this year. 

[bobbyperu]

From Stewart Lee mailing list email 

Sunday 1^st Sept – I will be doing 30 mins early at End Of The Road Festival

[xxialac]

48 minutes ago, bobbyperu said:

From Stewart Lee mailing list email 

Sunday 1^st Sept – I will be doing 30 mins early at End Of The Road Festival

Nice. Can anyone remember/know what time of day the comedy started last year?

[Wakey321]

This is my first year attending EOTR as usually been lucky enough to attend Glastonbury every year but missed out this year.

 

When I was looking at a different festival to attend this summer, EOTR jumped out straight away. The lineup diversity and mix of artists and music is fantastic. I like a lot of the artists on the lineup already but looking forward to digging into new artists. Clashes are a headache (Idles v Lankum in particular!) but that's all part of the festival experience.

 

[riverlodge]

9 minutes ago, Wakey321 said:

Clashes are a headache (Idles v Lankum in particular!) but that's all part of the festival experience.

 

EOTR is nothing like the logistical challenge of Worthy Farm. e.g. you could leave the middle of Garden Stage (for Lankum) and be by the bar at the back of Woods (for Idles) in 5 mins max. Of course you aren't going to go from large stage to barrier of a smaller one (i.e. Folly) on a whim for bigger artists, but you will get to see a lot and change your mind for little effort.

[SweepingTheNation]

Films have been announced. Andrea Arnold curates the Sunday, and on Saturday there's a Q&A with the director of the new Blur live film and a documentary about Jason Molina followed by artists from the line-up performing his songs. Also Simon has curated a day of race cycling films on Thursday. https://endoftheroadfestival.com/line-up/films/

Edited July 18 by SweepingTheNation

[noisenoiseandmorenoise]

3 hours ago, SweepingTheNation said:

Films have been announced. Andrea Arnold curates the Sunday, and on Saturday there's a Q&A with the director of the new Blur live film and a documentary about Jason Molina followed by artists from the line-up performing his songs. Also Simon has curated a day of race cycling films on Thursday. https://endoftheroadfestival.com/line-up/films/

 

Oof there will not be a dry eye in the house (tent?) after that Jason Molina double bill.

[Wooderson]

Soz to be so blunt, but if theres literally nothing for you on that line up you have a genuine lack of inquisitiveness. Its ace.

[Hurray4theWhiffWhaff]

On 7/18/2024 at 4:11 PM, noisenoiseandmorenoise said:

 

Oof there will not be a dry eye in the house (tent?) after that Jason Molina double bill.

Who do we think will be performing the Jason Molina songs?
I’m thinking… Will Oldham, Phospherescent; Brown Horse; King Hannah; Jess Williamson

Edited July 19 by Hurray4theWhiffWhaff