Rock Werchter 2025

[northernangel]

1 minute ago, sisco said:

You can only sell it 4/5 times if you do 4/5 gigs.  He chose to do a small tour for this run and then bigger venues in the summer (and seemingly festivals too)

 

Whatever way you look at it he’s a big artist and he’ll only get bigger with the tour, new album and Glasto/RW headline spots 

 

Not every artists gets to the same size in every country, he's not a Wrchter headliner, he's a saving money headliner. He actually makes the top like we could have dent quite a bit.

[Archi]

Really surprised to see him headline. I guess we could have a strong Saturday with a co-headline like 2022 (Imagine Dragons - Twenty One Pilots - Yungblud - Maneskin - Sum 41). Not excited and a bit disapointed like many of you. Let's what they have for us next week 🙂

[northernangel]

1 hour ago, Archi said:

Really surprised to see him headline. I guess we could have a strong Saturday with a co-headline like 2022 (Imagine Dragons - Twenty One Pilots - Yungblud - Maneskin - Sum 41). Not excited and a bit disapointed like many of you. Let's what they have for us next week 🙂

Not sure why the repeat itself should be a surprise. They booked Yungblud, Maneskin and Sum 41 in 22 with the former two reversed to each other the same day

[Ohad]

Fingers crossed for a worthy Barn closer for Saturday (;

[gingerevans84]

Feel like whenever a festival brings up a new headliner, they are never big enough. So in that regard do you want the same people over and over again or at least try and create new headliners.

[sisco]

3 minutes ago, gingerevans84 said:

Feel like whenever a festival brings up a new headliner, they are never big enough. So in that regard do you want the same people over and over again or at least try and create new headliners.

It’s exactly this.  Until someone is given the opportunity how do you know?!

 

You can also only book who is around and the major acts are preferring to do their own tours these days, even Glastonbury has struggled the last couple of years.

 

Of course we need to wait a few more weeks to see the final headliners and a pool of acts but So far I’m struggling to see who people actually wanted who is available.  Hopefully that random name will appear

[northernangel]

36 minutes ago, gingerevans84 said:

Feel like whenever a festival brings up a new headliner, they are never big enough. So in that regard do you want the same people over and over again or at least try and create new headliners.

I think it may just end up showing that even RW will struggle to get anyone they want now. Based on this year, u don't think people would have chosen Maneskin more than a co-headliner even though he does well in Belgium. They certainly won't have Lenny so maybe settings sights too high. I don't believe this though can't be bettered unless they've got two/three others that really cost.

[Ohad]

Arca in Rosklide. Would be a great addition

[thetime]

5 hours ago, gingerevans84 said:

Feel like whenever a festival brings up a new headliner, they are never big enough. So in that regard do you want the same people over and over again or at least try and create new headliners.

 

Its quite dangerous for a festival like Werchter to give a shot at an up and coming headliner(ticket sales). It's a festival that's all about headliners and lineups.

 

It's why Werchter has so many repeats down the years. For example multiple repeats from Pearl Jam, KOL, Editors etc. Guaranteed ticket sellers. Will Fender sell out his day, questionable unless its a strong day. 

 

For festivals that are more about the 'festival' experience it's easier to get away with. Festivals like Glastonbury, Roskilde or Sziget isn't solely aimed at lineups. Roskilde and Glastonbury will sell out anyway. 

 

That being said I'm all for different headliners, I have little interest being the likes of foo fighters/Metallica/Green Day and the likes. 

 

 

Edited November 1 by thetime

[sisco]

28 minutes ago, thetime said:

 

Its quite dangerous for a festival like Werchter to give a shot at an up and coming headliner(ticket sales). It's a festival that's all about headliners and lineups.

 

It's why Werchter has so many repeats down the years. For example multiple repeats from Pearl Jam, KOL, Editors etc. Guaranteed ticket sellers. Will Fender sell out his day, questionable unless its a strong day. 

 

For festivals that are more about the 'festival' experience it's easier to get away with. Festivals like Glastonbury, Roskilde or Sziget isn't solely aimed at lineups. Roskilde and Glastonbury will sell out anyway. 

 

That being said I'm all for different headliners, I have little interest being the likes of foo fighters/Metallica/Green Day and the likes. 

 

 

I do get that but you also can only book what’s around too.  
 

honestly I think in a couple of months it’ll look like a great booking and will have a good sub under to help sell tickets (plus it’s the most popular day in Saturday so I reckon it’ll do fine)

 

Hopefully they stick Linkin Park on another day and then in all honesty they could stick Beans on Toast on the final day and I’d be happy 😂

[thetime]

1 hour ago, sisco said:

I do get that but you also can only book what’s around too.  
 

honestly I think in a couple of months it’ll look like a great booking and will have a good sub under to help sell tickets (plus it’s the most popular day in Saturday so I reckon it’ll do fine)

 

Hopefully they stick Linkin Park on another day and then in all honesty they could stick Beans on Toast on the final day and I’d be happy 😂

 

What's the rumours for headliners?

 

Green Day

Fender

Linkin Park

Nick Cave

[northernangel]

1 hour ago, thetime said:

 

Its quite dangerous for a festival like Werchter to give a shot at an up and coming headliner(ticket sales). It's a festival that's all about headliners and lineups.

 

It's why Werchter has so many repeats down the years. For example multiple repeats from Pearl Jam, KOL, Editors etc. Guaranteed ticket sellers. Will Fender sell out his day, questionable unless its a strong day. 

 

For festivals that are more about the 'festival' experience it's easier to get away with. Festivals like Glastonbury, Roskilde or Sziget isn't solely aimed at lineups. Roskilde and Glastonbury will sell out anyway. 

 

That being said I'm all for different headliners, I have little interest being the likes of foo fighters/Metallica/Green Day and the likes. 

 

 

 

Haha yes from what I've seen those bands at the bottom aren't your cup lol

1 hour ago, sisco said:

I do get that but you also can only book what’s around too.  
 

honestly I think in a couple of months it’ll look like a great booking and will have a good sub under to help sell tickets (plus it’s the most popular day in Saturday so I reckon it’ll do fine)

 

Hopefully they stick Linkin Park on another day and then in all honesty they could stick Beans on Toast on the final day and I’d be happy 😂

 

To be honest I don't think from my view anyway Linkin Park makes it look better. It's not the original band afterall and not just the leader singer is missing. They really need to pull something big out the bag next and after Sunday the European leg of the LP tour is done. I think they currently need to go better than that.  If they booked Fres now with LP and not Olivia that's going to look weak.

[northernangel]

Just now, thetime said:

 

What's the rumours for headliners?

 

Green Day

Fender

Linkin Park

Nick Cave

 

Jesus man I hope not. I'm trying to find options to make going there for the first time. That's almost my worst outcome. I don't even really care if LP get booked or not because it's one of those ill have to watch it but it's not the same.

[sisco]

7 minutes ago, thetime said:

 

What's the rumours for headliners?

 

Green Day

Fender

Linkin Park

Nick Cave

Tbf, it’s just typical names going around like Billie, Olivia, Linkin Park and then seeing if the likes of Fred/Nick Cave/Pearl Jam etc.. are around.  
 

I’m not really sure what people expect from the headliners if I’m honest.  Take @northernangel 2 days ago he was defo going and now Sam Fender has been announced it’s the worst thing in the world 😂

[thetime]

11 minutes ago, sisco said:

Tbf, it’s just typical names going around like Billie, Olivia, Linkin Park and then seeing if the likes of Fred/Nick Cave/Pearl Jam etc.. are around.  
 

I’m not really sure what people expect from the headliners if I’m honest.  Take @northernangel 2 days ago he was defo going and now Sam Fender has been announced it’s the worst thing in the world 😂

 

I'm wondering if festival organisers are steering clear of Nick Cave, due to his Israel comments. As I thought he was a shoe in for Primavera. 

 

I'm seeing him next week in Manchester, but planning on a festival he plays. 

 

 

[Ohad]

1 hour ago, thetime said:

 

I'm wondering if festival organisers are steering clear of Nick Cave, due to his Israel comments. As I thought he was a shoe in for Primavera. 

 

I'm seeing him next week in Manchester, but planning on a festival he plays. 

 

 

 

I doubt it. As an Israeli, it is my impression that over the years, artists in Caves magnitude don't really suffer any consequences due to their support. Few headlines and mainly weirdos on instagram. Thom York is still getting booked everywhere for example.

Nah, these are the smaller acts that suffer. I remember Lorde and the xx got sh*t for planning shows here at early stages of their careers and were forced to cancel (unlucky me, as I had tickets for both). 

[sisco]

My last guess before we get too many more names

 

Thursday:

Linkin Park, Vampire Weekend,  Fontaines DC

 

Friday:

Green Day ,Fall Out Boy 

 

Saturday:

 

Sam Fender, Jack White 

 

Sunday:

 

Olivia Rodrigo, OATW

 

(of course the caveat as always is I may not have how popular these people are in Werchter)

[thetime]

2 hours ago, northernangel said:

 

Haha yes from what I've seen those bands at the bottom aren't your cup lol

 

It's not 2005 anymore 😃

[northernangel]

10 minutes ago, thetime said:

 

It's not 2005 anymore 😃

I can see that, bands have progressively got worse since then lol.

[northernangel]

2 hours ago, sisco said:

Tbf, it’s just typical names going around like Billie, Olivia, Linkin Park and then seeing if the likes of Fred/Nick Cave/Pearl Jam etc.. are around.  
 

I’m not really sure what people expect from the headliners if I’m honest.  Take @northernangel 2 days ago he was defo going and now Sam Fender has been announced it’s the worst thing in the world 😂

I wasn't definitely going at all, I was based on the larger scale we were talking about. 

[sisco]

1 minute ago, northernangel said:

I wasn't definitely going at all, I was based on the larger scale we were talking about. 

You were talking about… I said you were aiming far too high 😂.   I’m sure it’ll be great anyway

[ParanoidTourist]

2 hours ago, sisco said:

You were talking about… I said you were aiming far too high 😂.   I’m sure it’ll be great anyway

I don't think he was. For example: compared to the Saturday headliner in 2023 and 2024 (Muse and Dua Lipa) Sam Fender is pretty average. Let's hope the lineup improves.

[Aech2ElectricBoogaloo]

If Kravitz can headline outright in this day and age pretty much anyone can, especially the biggest guitar act to come out of Britain since the Arctic Monkeys. Unfortunately it seems the days of seven big headliners are behind us with the seemingly doubling of costs in the last couple years.

[tmolvik]

1 hour ago, Aech2ElectricBoogaloo said:

If Kravitz can headline outright in this day and age pretty much anyone can, especially the biggest guitar act to come out of Britain since the Arctic Monkeys. Unfortunately it seems the days of seven big headliners are behind us with the seemingly doubling of costs in the last couple years.

 

It's not only costs, but there's also fewer of them (and even fewer it will be), so big actors like Live Nation that runs many of the major festivals, has no interest in tucking them all into one festival. I said it a few years ago that I predict that within about 10 years, these big festivals with mainly focus on music will be fewer and fewer as well, with many of them gone. There are simply not enough interesting bands to go around and all those formatted one hit wonders that are topping the charts has no chance of drawing the same audiences over time. 

[sisco]

1 hour ago, tmolvik said:

 

It's not only costs, but there's also fewer of them (and even fewer it will be), so big actors like Live Nation that runs many of the major festivals, has no interest in tucking them all into one festival. I said it a few years ago that I predict that within about 10 years, these big festivals with mainly focus on music will be fewer and fewer as well, with many of them gone. There are simply not enough interesting bands to go around and all those formatted one hit wonders that are topping the charts has no chance of drawing the same audiences over time. 

Exactly that, I’ve said it over and over that the bigger acts are no longer interested in festivals as much as they can do their own tours on their own terms.  
 

if they don’t promote the likes of Sam Fender and Maneskin then there won’t be enough headliners to go around