Rock Werchter 2025

[Ohad]

Just now, Newjem said:

2023 headliners and flawless? The year where they repeated RHCP? And had Mumford & Sons as headliners (even though they were a replacement so not exactly their fault). The rest of the lineup you can’t judge yet…

 

(A) as i wasnt there in 22, i didnt mjnd RHCP

(b) agreed that mumford arent a great choice, i eas really looking for stromae, but still this is a more credible choice than a hot-right-now-and-forget-later gurl.

 

But this is the point, right? You won't get Metalica closing after Olivia or Muse after Sam, right? It's gonna be weak.

[northernangel]

2 minutes ago, Ohad said:

Well I felt like both 22 and 24 (especially!!) were relatively weak, so I guess I'm more of a Muse than dua lipa guy. 

 

Anyway, unless you're highly acclaimed like Billie or Frank Ocean, I think that to be a headliner with 2 albums out is a weak, forced-hands choice. No matter how many concerts she sold this year in Belgium, RW is heading exactly where Coachella was heading. It will take another year or two, but they will start feeling their popy choices in tickets sales.

 

Hate to say but everywhere is headlining there, Glastonbury well on their way too and Glastonbury doesn't need to either, it's sell out whatever. They've just got to join the parade.

 

Haha yes I would take Dua Lipa now over Muse....10-15 years ago a different story maybe. The mast time I saw Muse was 2016 and I left to Underworld at the start of Madness and not regretted it once. Didn't want them to headline Glastonbury and theg were well past their point with 2010 being so much better and even by then the peak was gone.

[49Lawson]

2 minutes ago, sisco said:

Tbf Wireless turned from a festival who booked Bands to only rappers

 

If I look at Werchter lineups in the past hasn’t it always been varied? Pink has headlined 3-4 times hasn’t she? Dua Lipa headlined last year.  They’ve been very vocal about wanting Billie Eilish too.  It’s one of those too with being able to book who is around, as has been said before even the likes of Glastonbury have struggled to book those massive acts anymore and acts just want to do their own thing.

 

 

Yeah but that's kind of my point. They have their thing, and it's great for those who like it. 

 

I think the biggest point you make their is that they can only book acts who are available, which I think people across efests on all forums forget sometimes. There was a great point made this morning that it is a bit ominous for the 50th Anniversary if they've started their announcements with Green Day, Sam Fender and Olivia Rodrigo but it also needs to be said that if these are the biggest artists around next year then they've done well to secure them all. 

 

I think an issue Werchter has is that anyone who has been knows it's literally all about the music. Outside of the main stages there is very little else do, so when they drip feed names it gives other places time to snap up ticket sales from other places.

[Ohad]

1 minute ago, northernangel said:

Haha yes I would take Dua Lipa now over Muse

 

Oh, this is the premise! So we're just not gonna agree on acts, we have extremely different taste in performers 🙂

[Newjem]

3 minutes ago, Ohad said:

 

(A) as i wasnt there in 22, i didnt mjnd RHCP

(b) agreed that mumford arent a great choice, i eas really looking for stromae, but still this is a more credible choice than a hot-right-now-and-forget-later gurl.

 

But this is the point, right? You won't get Metalica closing after Olivia or Muse after Sam, right? It's gonna be weak.

Honestly, I would rather watch someone who’s on top of their form right now than bands that used to be good and are quite boring nowadays (like RHCP or Arctics from the 2023 lineup). Festivals have to push these new artists as Metallica won’t be here forever…

[Ohad]

Just now, Newjem said:

Honestly, I would rather watch someone who’s on top of their form right now than bands that used to be good and are quite boring nowadays (like RHCP or Arctics from the 2023 lineup). Festivals have to push these new artists as Metallica won’t be here forever…

Agreed, but there is a correlation between experience and performance skills (which is not the case with chart hits).

 

Olivia, Dua.. they sell. They're on top of their game. But it doesn't say anything about them ad performers. Don't know about Olivia, but Dua is even a classic meme. Saw her glasto set. She can't perform for the life of her.

 

And while their 2018 set was a mess, I think that AMs 23 set was legendary.

[VCF]

5 minutes ago, Ohad said:

Olivia, Dua.. they sell. They're on top of their game. But it doesn't say anything about them ad performers. Don't know about Olivia, but Dua is even a classic meme. Saw her glasto set. She can't perform for the life of her.

What?

[Ohad]

1 minute ago, VCF said:

What?

The

Girl

Can't

Sing

Live

[BennyL]

47 minutes ago, sisco said:

Be surprised if it’s not Linkin Park now.

 

Also is it interesting that unless I’m reading it wrong or missing something Olivia Rodrigo isn’t actually listed as closing the stage (like the others)

She is definitely closing, she’s doing headline shows all over Europe 

[Newjem]

3 minutes ago, Ohad said:

Agreed, but there is a correlation between experience and performance skills (which is not the case with chart hits).

 

Olivia, Dua.. they sell. They're on top of their game. But it doesn't say anything about them ad performers. Don't know about Olivia, but Dua is even a classic meme. Saw her glasto set. She can't perform for the life of her.

 

And while their 2018 set was a mess, I think that AMs 23 set was legendary.

Ok, I see. This is just a matter of different music taste. I think Dua is great live. What was wrong with her Glasto set? Saw AM twice and it was just boring and felt like I wasn’t the only one who had the same opinion as the crowds were dead.

[VCF]

You’ve probably watched the wrong set then.

[northernangel]

8 minutes ago, Ohad said:

Agreed, but there is a correlation between experience and performance skills (which is not the case with chart hits).

 

Olivia, Dua.. they sell. They're on top of their game. But it doesn't say anything about them ad performers. Don't know about Olivia, but Dua is even a classic meme. Saw her glasto set. She can't perform for the life of her.

 

And while their 2018 set was a mess, I think that AMs 23 set was legendary.

Obviously all allowed opinions but Arctics most recently were very dull apart from two of their songs that they didn't just try and sign in TBH&C format. Only reason I caught them in 23 and they've past their best nearly 10 years.

[Ohad]

2 minutes ago, Newjem said:

Ok, I see. This is just a matter of different music taste. I think Dua is great live. What was wrong with her Glasto set? Saw AM twice and it was just boring and felt like I wasn’t the only one who had the same opinion as the crowds were dead.

No, this is not JUST about taste. This is about performing abilities. You can't expect a 22 years old who's been touring for 2 years to have the same experience as headliners material.

The bar is too low in the inportant parameters. That's what I'm saying 

[Daniel Ferreira]

 

Robbie Williams at TW Classic 2025

Edited November 11 by Daniel Ferreira

[Karlos12345]

1 minute ago, Daniel Ferreira said:

 

Robbie Williams at TW Classic 2025

Not looking good for anyone who hoped for Macca. (Like me.)

[Newjem]

2 minutes ago, Ohad said:

No, this is not JUST about taste. This is about performing abilities. You can't expect a 22 years old who's been touring for 2 years to have the same experience as headliners material.

The bar is too low in the inportant parameters. That's what I'm saying 

Huh? She’s in the industry for quite a while now. Her shows seem great. Don’t know what you get from years of touring if you already have the confidence and qualities. What are the important parameters?

[Codhead]

2 minutes ago, Karlos12345 said:

Not looking good for anyone who hoped for Macca. (Like me.)

I really hope this means that Paul isn't playing the main festival. 

[Ohad]

Just now, Newjem said:

Huh? She’s in the industry for quite a while now. Her shows seem great. Don’t know what you get from years of touring if you already have the confidence and qualities. What are the important parameters?

 

Really think about this sentence and whether it reflects the real world as you know it

[gingerevans84]

Ah I love a good discussion about a pop star at Werchter. But only that, but a new festival headliner pop star!! 

 

Cry me a river if she's 'not big enough' or 'BUT ITS NOT POP WERCHTER'

 

Was the same rubbish last year when Dua was announced.

[Codhead]

2 minutes ago, Newjem said:

Huh? She’s in the industry for quite a while now. Her shows seem great. Don’t know what you get from years of touring if you already have the confidence and qualities. What are the important parameters?

If you do woodwork at school you don't expect to become a master carpenter without years of experience!

[Nizeto]

Also, Robbie Williams is just been announced at the werchter classic

[Ohad]

7 minutes ago, Codhead said:

If you do woodwork at school you don't expect to become a master carpenter without years of experience!

THANK YOU!

I remember seeing Rihanna in 2010 (arguably, already one of the biggest pop stars, and imo by then bigger than Olivia is today). She was still young, inexperienced, and the fact that she's talented and super popular were enough to pull a good show, but that's it. Saw her again 3 years later and there was no point to compare.

 

Experience is important, that's it.

[Newjem]

16 minutes ago, Ohad said:

Really think about this sentence and whether it reflects the real world as you know it

So we don’t have young actors who are the main stars of TV shows/movies? There aren’t any young footballers who are leaders of their teams? 

 

14 minutes ago, Codhead said:

If you do woodwork at school you don't expect to become a master carpenter without years of experience!

If you have the talent and enthusiasm you can be much better. There are young chefs who have already won Michelin stars, meanwhile there are many experienced who still cook bad food in some shithole…

Edited November 11 by Newjem

[49Lawson]

22 minutes ago, Daniel Ferreira said:

 

Robbie Williams at TW Classic 2025

Are we all at least in agreement that between ORod and RobW, the main festival won today?

[gingerevans84]

5 minutes ago, Ohad said:

THANK YOU!

I remember seeing Rihanna in 2010 (arguably, already one of the biggest pop stars, and imo by then bigger than Olivia is today). She was still young, inexperienced, and the fact that she's talented and super popular were enough to pull a good show, but that's it. Saw her again 3 years later and there was no point to compare.

 

Experience is important, that's it.

It is, but without doing these huge shows, then you wont get experience in doing huge shows. Doing another arena run is pointless.