Football 2024/25

[charlierc]

9 hours ago, thetime said:

 

Whilst I agree it should be an English man, there's no one really suitable.

 

It's also quite amusing when the premier league is ful of overseas ownerships, managers, players, fans.

 

If they looked at that, there may be a more qualified English managers to take over. Again if you look at recent history like Low and Scaloni, does it need a bells and whistle manager. 

 

Southgate was not a bells and whistles manager and got close to 2 Euros tbf, so I can get that idea.

 

It is a curio imo to change tack, but it will be fascinating to see if this works out. And if a national team reflects the football culture of a country at large, surely importing a manager is on brand for it. Indeed I think there's a few Man United fans annoyed they didn't act quicker to bring Tuchel to Old Trafford, though that could just be allied to their dismay that ten Hag hasn't been told to go away yet.

 

Seems like a few nations might be in this boat, mind. Brazil thought they had a genuine shout at landing Carlo Ancelotti this time last year, to the point where they were genuinely ambushed by him signing a new Real Madrid contract, and also seem to want Guardiola to one day go their way.

[pink_triangle]

9 hours ago, thetime said:

 

Whilst I agree it should be an English man, there's no one really suitable.

 

 

It's also quite amusing when the premier league is ful of overseas ownerships, managers, players, fans.

 

If they looked at that, there may be a more qualified English managers to take over. Again if you look at recent history like Low and Scaloni, does it need a bells and whistle manager. 

 

It’s also hard to see an English manager getting the type of job that would make them “suitable “.

 

 

[charlierc]

2 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

It’s also hard to see an English manager getting the type of job that would make them “suitable “.

I think that's the bigger issue as well. No English manager has won a Premier League-era top flight title, an FA Cup since 2008 (Redknapp with Portsmouth) or a Carabao/Capital One/Carling/EFL Cup since 2004 (McClaren with Middlesbrough). English managers have ofc got top 6 finishes or shown decent potential, but if none of the rich six are willing to take a chance on an English manager - and indeed the Graham Potter debacle at Chelsea may not have helped with this - it's not going to help.

[thetime]

4 hours ago, charlierc said:

I think that's the bigger issue as well. No English manager has won a Premier League-era top flight title, an FA Cup since 2008 (Redknapp with Portsmouth) or a Carabao/Capital One/Carling/EFL Cup since 2004 (McClaren with Middlesbrough). English managers have ofc got top 6 finishes or shown decent potential, but if none of the rich six are willing to take a chance on an English manager - and indeed the Graham Potter debacle at Chelsea may not have helped with this - it's not going to help.

 

The only viable one is Eddie Howe which we've alluded to recently. Which I also see a bit far fetched.

 

Premier league doesn't have much English about it, so why should those clubs appoint English mangers? Unfortunately English football has built a beast.