mufcok Posted Wednesday at 04:37 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 04:37 PM Royel Otis are playing Park, which I'm very happy about. Â On Kneecap - swear I heard Other Stage bandied about. I may have imagined that, but I'll predict it regardless of info. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantWaitForGlasto22 Posted yesterday at 08:18 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:18 AM 15 hours ago, mufcok said: Royel Otis are playing Park, which I'm very happy about. That would be great! Been listening to them a lot recently after recommendations on here - new fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben7amin_ Posted yesterday at 08:50 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:50 AM 16 hours ago, mufcok said: Royel Otis are playing Park, which I'm very happy about.  On Kneecap - swear I heard Other Stage bandied about. I may have imagined that, but I'll predict it regardless of info.  They have had a real surge in popularity post Glastonbury - they are probably the act i hear the - I wish id known about them in June about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcok Posted yesterday at 09:28 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:28 AM Believe they may have a special guest joining them. No prizes for guessing that one 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantWaitForGlasto22 Posted yesterday at 09:35 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:35 AM 41 minutes ago, Ben7amin_ said: Â They have had a real surge in popularity post Glastonbury - they are probably the act i hear the - I wish id known about them in June about missed that! Which stage were they on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben7amin_ Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM 6 minutes ago, CantWaitForGlasto22 said: missed that! Which stage were they on? They played Woodsies at 11:30 AM on the Sat - I think there was a late show aswell -Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looother Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:43 AM I wouldn't dream of going anywhere near Kneecap. They've crossed the line that separates pro-Palestine activism from, well, something completely unhinged and dangerous, and not by a short distance. In a rational world they would be pariahs. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantWaitForGlasto22 Posted yesterday at 10:45 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:45 AM 1 hour ago, Ben7amin_ said: They played Woodsies at 11:30 AM on the Sat - I think there was a late show aswell - Oh you meant Kneecap. I thought I’d missed Royel Otis - my mistake (glad I didn’t miss them tho!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell99 Posted yesterday at 01:33 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:33 PM 3 hours ago, Looother said: I wouldn't dream of going anywhere near Kneecap. They've crossed the line that separates pro-Palestine activism from, well, something completely unhinged and dangerous, and not by a short distance. In a rational world they would be pariahs. Â What have they been doing out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorblindjames Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:35 PM 1 hour ago, Ell99 said:  What have they been doing out of interest? Opposing genocide. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphoricape Posted yesterday at 05:08 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:08 PM 7 hours ago, Ben7amin_ said: They played Woodsies at 11:30 AM on the Sat - I think there was a late show aswell -Â I wish I'd known about them in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looother Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Colorblindjames said: Opposing genocide.  Moderator CW: Disturbing images  I don't want this to be political or personal. I'm no supporter of Israel's government or their conduct in the war. I don't want to silence protest. But this really is a thoughtless response, and given that I provoked it I should explain my thinking. I note that my comment has so far received four downvotes and no upvotes (and @Colorblindjames has got an upvote for his), which suggests that members of this forum tend to disagree with me. I invite anyone who does to get in touch - I have my own biases and am always learning. But I think there is something about Kneecap's social media output that is profoundly illiberal. It is possible to be pro-Palestinian and also wrong.  Here are a few tweets from the last 10 days that I think present an issue:  I've got a few issues with this image, but let's just take the main one. This picture features the six-pointed star that is widely seen as a symbol of the Jews, blended with a Nazi swastika. I think it would be completely wrong to distort the Israeli flag in this way, but this is not the Israeli flag. This would be a powerful political image without the star, but with it a line has obviously been crossed. Really this couldn't be much clearer. Google Holocaust inversion.   Firstly, these signs do or did exist and they're really grim. From what I can see they were created by an Israeli campaigning organisation - so by Israelis - and obviously not by the state of Israel, and the image is of people walking (fleeing is probably the more accurate word). I don't think it's weird to consider accuracy important, but my main issue isn't with that.  On successive days Kneecap described Israel as "the most depraved regime on earth" and "the most evil force on earth". They may consider Israel's government to be reprehensible, repulsive. I wouldn't have an issue with them saying so. But literally as I type mass graves are being excavated in Syria, Iran is ruled by Islamist extremists who murder women for showing their hair and pour billions into genocidal militias, a Saudi regime that led a war in Yemen that killed (estimates vary) around 400,000 people has used the death penalty to execute more than 300 this year. Sadly I could go on. So what is it about the world's only Jewish state, I wonder, that makes them "the most evil" or "the most depraved" on earth?  I'm sure I could find much more and worse if I did a deeper trawl. Like I say, I think they regularly cross the line and that their social media activity (I've no idea what they say at their concerts) should set off alarm bells among all people who consider themselves liberal/considerate/anti-racist, which I hope includes most of us on this forum.  I'm sorry to have derailed this thread. Now I'm off to see Paul McCartney. Edited 23 hours ago by kaosmark2 added a content warning 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago Well said Kneecap  They’ve got the guts to say it when too many haven’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) Moderator note: Â Firstly, I want to highlight that we have an international politics thread that is better suited to in-depth conversation around these topics. Â Secondly, please put a content warning on disturbing images. Edited 23 hours ago by kaosmark2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briddj Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) On 12/18/2024 at 7:01 AM, Ben7amin_ said: Hmm interesting Why is that - I would say given there current stock it makes them more likely to open the other than a normal slot?  First successful albums in lets be honest (a long time). Paralells with James when they were selected to do it in 2016! If anything the early slot had been designed to highlight an act as oposed to just putting them on first - Hard Fi in a regular line up on the Other stage would be pretty close to the bottom of it - you would think anyway,   Sheds have been fully engaged by Radio 2 tits last year. Live Piano Room, live in the park, all singles playlisted. They haven't just had a couple of albums done well. And they've just sold out a 22-date tour. They fell significantly more successful right now than Other opener.  When James did it in 2016, their album only came out in March of that year. Edited 23 hours ago by briddj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Pythagoras Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 13 hours ago, mufcok said: Believe they may have a special guest joining them. No prizes for guessing that one 😅 Who's this Royel Otis or Kneecap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesy10 Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago On 12/18/2024 at 4:37 PM, mufcok said: Royel Otis are playing Park, which I'm very happy about. Â On Kneecap - swear I heard Other Stage bandied about. I may have imagined that, but I'll predict it regardless of info. My one-eyed drunkeness read that as "Otis Redding". I thought bugger me, that's a stretch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, briddj said:  Sheds have been fully engaged by Radio 2 tits last year. Live Piano Room, live in the park, all singles playlisted. They haven't just had a couple of albums done well. And they've just sold out a 22-date tour. They fell significantly more successful right now than Other opener.  When James did it in 2016, their album only came out in March of that year.  Feels like a description of an act that's exactly the right size to be the other stage opener.  There not a bigger act than Ben Howard who did that slot in 2023 if it's not to small for him it's not to small for them   Edited 17 hours ago by AVALON.G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcok Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 11 hours ago, Monty Pythagoras said: Who's this Royel Otis or Kneecap? Â Royel Otis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foolee Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, Looother said:  Moderator CW: Disturbing images  I don't want this to be political or personal. I'm no supporter of Israel's government or their conduct in the war. I don't want to silence protest. But this really is a thoughtless response, and given that I provoked it I should explain my thinking. I note that my comment has so far received four downvotes and no upvotes (and @Colorblindjames has got an upvote for his), which suggests that members of this forum tend to disagree with me. I invite anyone who does to get in touch - I have my own biases and am always learning. But I think there is something about Kneecap's social media output that is profoundly illiberal. It is possible to be pro-Palestinian and also wrong.  Here are a few tweets from the last 10 days that I think present an issue:  I've got a few issues with this image, but let's just take the main one. This picture features the six-pointed star that is widely seen as a symbol of the Jews, blended with a Nazi swastika. I think it would be completely wrong to distort the Israeli flag in this way, but this is not the Israeli flag. This would be a powerful political image without the star, but with it a line has obviously been crossed. Really this couldn't be much clearer. Google Holocaust inversion.   Firstly, these signs do or did exist and they're really grim. From what I can see they were created by an Israeli campaigning organisation - so by Israelis - and obviously not by the state of Israel, and the image is of people walking (fleeing is probably the more accurate word). I don't think it's weird to consider accuracy important, but my main issue isn't with that.  On successive days Kneecap described Israel as "the most depraved regime on earth" and "the most evil force on earth". They may consider Israel's government to be reprehensible, repulsive. I wouldn't have an issue with them saying so. But literally as I type mass graves are being excavated in Syria, Iran is ruled by Islamist extremists who murder women for showing their hair and pour billions into genocidal militias, a Saudi regime that led a war in Yemen that killed (estimates vary) around 400,000 people has used the death penalty to execute more than 300 this year. Sadly I could go on. So what is it about the world's only Jewish state, I wonder, that makes them "the most evil" or "the most depraved" on earth?  I'm sure I could find much more and worse if I did a deeper trawl. Like I say, I think they regularly cross the line and that their social media activity (I've no idea what they say at their concerts) should set off alarm bells among all people who consider themselves liberal/considerate/anti-racist, which I hope includes most of us on this forum.  I'm sorry to have derailed this thread. Now I'm off to see Paul McCartney. So you’re telling us you’re buzzing to see Kneecap on Other stage next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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