Adster Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 Regarding wristbands. Even if you have large hands it's pretty trivial to take them off in seconds using the freezer bag trick. I've had just one wristband over dozens of festivals that was too tight to get off (and back on). Sharing them would be easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 58 minutes ago, Old_Johno said: The main reason I don’t think it can be that high is logistics of getting there 10k people is 2,500 cars. For Bristolians that’s the entire 8 story Cabot circus car park. You can’t bin that many cars off by the side of the road within any reasonable distance. Even if a quarter came by car that’s still a sh*t load of cars to park somewhere within walking distance, when the whole festival is set up not to give anyone a free parking option within miles as they’re flogging it for £60. 10,000 plus people getting there by public transport? Not a chance. Getting any reasonably high number in via crew would be raising serious questions about why say a toastie stand needs to be going out for delivery runs every 30 minutes. Paid off security? You’d need multiple people in on in, and volunteer stewards it just seems unlikely. Possible for another few hundred. 10,000 extra attendees getting in is over 200 people jumping a fence/ sneaking in/ passing off a fake ticket EVERY HOUR for the first two days, or 20 people per gate per hour, assume there’s about 10 gates ng the service ones, could be loads more if anyones got a crew map. QR code wristbands would be cool, if you buy a season pass for snowboarding it’s linked to your picture so you can’t lend it to people, it’s not mega technology, they’ve done the hard part by everyone getting their picture and account linked. Great post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvoram Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said: Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on? Yep, lots of people, were getting checked inside randomly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedra Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 I was working Gate C with Oxfam - on first time entry and also exits. We were alerted to fake tickets and how to spot them and fake lost ticket bands which had a certain numbers on. There were 2 people dressed as paramedics who tried to get in - unsuccessfully although full marks for effort and a couple of runners who got caught. Not sure many people managed to get through main gates. We did meet someone on the crew bus on the Tuesday from the green fields though who said she knew of about 40-50 already there who had got in. I am assuming in back of vans or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 7 hours ago, fraybentos1 said: Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on? I've never seen it, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishinginthelongdrops Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 42 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: I've never seen it, ever. There are sometimes people spotting at the road crossings and along the railway track. Seen quite a few people get caught without bands while crossing the road between Silver Hayes and Woodies in previous years. I’m sure there have been wristband checks going into the SEC in some years but haven’t noticed it recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger123 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 27 minutes ago, Fishinginthelongdrops said: There are sometimes people spotting at the road crossings and along the railway track. Seen quite a few people get caught without bands while crossing the road between Silver Hayes and Woodies in previous years. I’m sure there have been wristband checks going into the SEC in some years but haven’t noticed it recently. I believe the stewards asking you to high five their big foam hands as you go through the barriers in Bella's Field was actually a disguise for wristband checking, at least that's what one of them said to me when I asked them a few years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: I've never seen it, ever. I’ve only ever seen it on Tuesday night when they’ve done a sweep from one side of the farm to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 5 minutes ago, tigger123 said: I believe the stewards asking you to high five their big foam hands as you go through the barriers in Bella's Field was actually a disguise for wristband checking, at least that's what one of them said to me when I asked them a few years back Don’t think so or at least partially not … it’s to slow the flow of crowds I was told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talcroft Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: I've never seen it, ever. I've seen it once in ten glastos since 2008 - just saw him being removed, missed the start of the palava and how he was checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdusty surfer Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Fishinginthelongdrops said: There are sometimes people spotting at the road crossings and along the railway track. Seen quite a few people get caught without bands while crossing the road between Silver Hayes and Woodies in previous years. I’m sure there have been wristband checks going into the SEC in some years but haven’t noticed it recently. It occasionally does happen threre. The reason for that location is that it's a short distance to an exit point for easy eviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyseven Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 46 minutes ago, tigger123 said: I believe the stewards asking you to high five their big foam hands as you go through the barriers in Bella's Field was actually a disguise for wristband checking, at least that's what one of them said to me when I asked them a few years back Easily foiled by only high fiving with one hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Pythagoras Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 9 hours ago, fraybentos1 said: Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on? Yeah I got collared by a lady on a mobility scooter in the greenfields about 11pm one night. Was more caught off guard than anything else so obliged and showed my wrist but not sure what would have happened if I'd have flat out refused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said: Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop. maybe instead of double banding they could reissue or produce a lost ticket pass with photo on it from a database ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 12 minutes ago, Monty Pythagoras said: Yeah I got collared by a lady on a mobility scooter in the greenfields about 11pm one night. Think I know the lady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Pythagoras Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 4 minutes ago, Skip997 said: Think I know the lady. She was fine - just caught me off guard being asked more than anything. Does she normally check bands? And what would have happened if I hadn't obliged or didn't have a band? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, Monty Pythagoras said: She was fine - just caught me off guard being asked more than anything. Does she normally check bands? And what would have happened if I hadn't obliged or didn't have a band? I thought she was welfare, had no idea she checked bands. Unless she had a radio not sure what she could have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkyJoe Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 I'm not sure I understand the double wristband thing. Is it an identical wristband to the normal one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madyaker Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: I've never seen it, ever. I’ve not seen security randomly check people inside the festival but I have seen people with no wristbands getting picked up once or twice. In the John peel tent in 2017 waiting for killers to do their tba set and there was a bunch of 6 or 7 teenagers beside us and I had noticed that they didn’t have a single wristband between them but I didn’t care. About ten minutes before the gig starts 4 security guys approached them from different directions and they were all escorted out, I think they just accepted it with no fuss. Someone obviously spotted them and grassed them up to security which I thought was bad form to be honest, they seemed like nice kids there to enjoy the music, not causing trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Johno Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 44 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said: Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop. I don’t think you’d ever stop traders bringing in a few extra people, it’s always been a thing at festivals that crew allocations was sort of part of the deal, especially for people running stages. You got paid f**k all but you were given way more bands than you needed and sold the rest off. They clamped down on it so they just bring their mates in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraybentos1 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 10 minutes ago, Madyaker said: I’ve not seen security randomly check people inside the festival but I have seen people with no wristbands getting picked up once or twice. In the John peel tent in 2017 waiting for killers to do their tba set and there was a bunch of 6 or 7 teenagers beside us and I had noticed that they didn’t have a single wristband between them but I didn’t care. About ten minutes before the gig starts 4 security guys approached them from different directions and they were all escorted out, I think they just accepted it with no fuss. Someone obviously spotted them and grassed them up to security which I thought was bad form to be honest, they seemed like nice kids there to enjoy the music, not causing trouble. Maybe, but at the end of the day if there ever is a crush or something like that then being thousands over capacity would be a cause of that. Easy to say it's fine on a small scale but bigger picture it's clearly dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazola Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 only time I've ever been asked to show wristband was back in 2016 I think, security checking in the middle of the night as we were on our way in or out of bushy ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipsteak Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 48 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said: Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop. Yeah, it's one of those solutions that worked fine until it didn't, once people realised they could exploit it. (Probably about 5 minutes after seeing it) And even then it only becomes a big problem if too many people start exploiting it. I don't remember ever seeing that many people coming through with two wristbands but I haven't worked a ped gate since 2019. Maybe more are coming through now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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