Oasis

[pink_triangle]

31 minutes ago, Nobby's Old Boots said:

Do you think footballers and film stars earnings affect the end users ticket price?

As far as comparisons go that's about as big a nonsense as I've seen.

Ultimately yes they do the money has to come from somewhere. The way they are paid and the nature of the product means it doesnt look as obvious.
 

However if the club wants the star footballers to earn more money , that comes from the pockets of the punters and not reduced profits for the club. Whether it’s increased ticket pricing, merchandise, food or sky tv subscriptions the customer will be the one who ultimately pays the difference.

 

Thats why I struggle to criticise musicians trying to maximise income when others in different industries get a free pass.

[Mambonumberfive]

40 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Id guess on this one that they're overwhelmed by the numbers of people signing up, or there is some sort of priority system. Id guess the former, as I haven't received alerts for other gigs either since Saturday 

I’d like to be kind and agree but had a similar issue when I was after Elton John tickets. I had alerts on for ages and not a single notification. Just ended up checking lots and gave up in the end. 

[doogie]

I think Twickets resales at the non-dynamic price will be few and far between. Why put them up there when you can help any of your dozens of ticketless friends/family/colleagues instead?

[Nobby's Old Boots]

42 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

Ultimately yes they do the money has to come from somewhere. The way they are paid and the nature of the product means it doesnt look as obvious.
 

However if the club wants the star footballers to earn more money , that comes from the pockets of the punters and not reduced profits for the club. Whether it’s increased ticket pricing, merchandise, food or sky tv subscriptions the customer will be the one who ultimately pays the difference.

 

Thats why I struggle to criticise musicians trying to maximise income when others in different industries get a free pass.

Doubling down on nonsense

[Narnia]

Failure to warn Oasis fans of dynamic pricing may be consumer law breach, say experts | Oasis | The Guardian

[Suprefan]

34 minutes ago, Narnia said:

Failure to warn Oasis fans of dynamic pricing may be consumer law breach, say experts | Oasis | The Guardian

 

so theyve been breaching the law for a few years then. Why is that only coming to light now then. Are those experts that dense....

[charlierc]

Liam Gallagher on X: "350 dollars to go and see rkid in USA what a c**t when will it all stop as you were LG x" / X

 

Seven years is a lifetime huh

[charlierc]

42 minutes ago, Narnia said:

Failure to warn Oasis fans of dynamic pricing may be consumer law breach, say experts | Oasis | The Guardian

It's the bit at the end where they're declaring they want this to be more widespread in Europe that feels the most ominous. Clearly deciding that the PR kicking they've received for this wasn't enough huh.

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, doogie said:

I think Twickets resales at the non-dynamic price will be few and far between. Why put them up there when you can help any of your dozens of ticketless friends/family/colleagues instead?

Guess it depends what the balance was between the part of the allocation that went on Ticketmaster and through the dynamic pricing stuff and what part went through SeeTickets/Gigs&Tours, which didn't.

[pink_triangle]

44 minutes ago, Narnia said:

Failure to warn Oasis fans of dynamic pricing may be consumer law breach, say experts | Oasis | The Guardian

The change likely to come from this is Ticketmaster will have to put some disclaimer as part of the queue, I suppose that’s progress in terms of transparency, whether it makes any real difference I have my doubts. I suspect such a disclaimer would not have stopped many queuing and even those who will claim it would have stopped them, I suspect for many in reality it wouldn’t.

 

If people think this will end dynamic pricing I think they will be disappointed. The only thing that ends it is people refusing to pay and not enough are willing to make that kind of stand.

[pink_triangle]

5 minutes ago, charlierc said:

It's the bit at the end where they're declaring they want this to be more widespread in Europe that feels the most ominous. Clearly deciding that the PR kicking they've received for this wasn't enough huh.

The only PR kicking that these companies fear are ones that hit their bottom line. The question to ask is how many upset about this will boycott Ticketmaster,  I suspect we are talking about tiny amounts. This comes across to me as one of those occasions where a lot of venting takes place, but little action will be taken and therefore nothing significant changes.

[MEGABOWL]

13 minutes ago, charlierc said:

It's the bit at the end where they're declaring they want this to be more widespread in Europe that feels the most ominous. Clearly deciding that the PR kicking they've received for this wasn't enough huh.

Now happening in Spanish football

[MrZigster]

9 hours ago, gfa said:

For the general public maybe this is the case - but i think we all on here know £150 is already taking the piss let alone the £200 seats and vip packages

 

Taylor Swifts show was less and is 3 hours - and she's a bigger act even (albeit without the reunion hype / scarcity factor) whereas Oasis will play for what, 90 minutes

 

 

Was thinking this earlier. They could easily play for three hours given their back catalogue, but with the undercard acts probably only do 90 minutes/2 hours max.

 

Paid £200 for third row Rush tickets for their final UK tour back in 2013. I knew they would play for three hours though.

[charlierc]

1 minute ago, MEGABOWL said:

Now happening in Spanish football

Aye I saw that.

 

Football's hunt for finding ever greater revenues means it wouldn't be a surprise. Bad enough seemingly all Premier League clubs now charge a membership fee to be able to even get tickets.

[Ayrshire Chris]

Buying Oasis tickets in 1996 for their gig on the banks of Loch Lomond.

no dynamic pricing, maybe just a bit of queue jumping😉😊

[henry bear]

2 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Thats why I struggle to criticise musicians trying to maximise income when others in different industries get a free pass.

 

What about others in the same industry that are really struggling to earn a living wage because everyone's spent their gig money to see one band

[pink_triangle]

4 minutes ago, henry bear said:

 

What about others in the same industry that are really struggling to earn a living wage because everyone's spent their gig money to see one band

I just don’t believe that many people have this £150-300 gig budget per year and once used up that’s it. I imagine you will have some who wouldn’t have gone to any gigs if it wasn’t for oasis and most who do will carry on as they would anyway.

[plaskins]

I dunno. It's a lot of money but I'll still go to tours of other bands I like if they are out and about and a couple of festivals hopefully. Bank balance doesn't look to healthy now, admittedly 😒

[Long Season]

26 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I just don’t believe that many people have this £150-300 gig budget per year and once used up that’s it. I imagine you will have some who wouldn’t have gone to any gigs if it wasn’t for oasis and most who do will carry on as they would anyway.

 

I duno, I used to go to upwards of 50+ gigs a year at one point but now have to really ration them out as arena gigs have gone from £50 to £100+ and smaller gigs hit close to £50 too often enough. There's only so much money you earn a year. With these hyper inflated prices, you could still see a plethora of bands for the price of a dynamically ticketed Oasis gig, and if I were to drop £350 on Oasis, I don't think the four bands playing the Ritz or Albert Hall would get much of a look in on the rest of my wage

[henry bear]

If you're on a low income and you just spaffed £800+ for two tickets (probably way more than you expected to pay, or were initially willing to, but after spending hours on TM FOMO kicks in big time), something would have to give, whether it's food, bills, other entertainment, holidays etc. I expect some people have ended up in real debt they can't afford because of Dynamic Pricing

[09matthewsw]

US tour promo has now started, think there could be some UK tickets back in the pot once the dates start getting announced. A good time to get the twickets app and set an alert for the dates you need.

 

think this rules out more UK dates for good now as well 

[Suprefan]

12 hours ago, gfa said:

For the general public maybe this is the case - but i think we all on here know £150 is already taking the piss let alone the £200 seats and vip packages

 

Taylor Swifts show was less and is 3 hours - and she's a bigger act even (albeit without the reunion hype / scarcity factor) whereas Oasis will play for what, 90 minutes

 

 

she had to back off because of the mess created in the first round of onsales. It was going to be there from the get go. Even vip packages lasted longer during the euro sales cause of the high cost. They changed them to regular tickets and they were gone.  Taylors Rep Tour and Lover Fest shows had platinum and dynamic. Girls not a saint.

 

but the thing is, its ruined a lot now because she did a 3 hour show and now apparently everyone has to do the same and  at a fair cost or they got ripped off. Thats a disservice to all other artists. f**k that.   And im sorry, itll never compare to watching Prince perform for 3 hours for $25 because he wanted everyone to be able to see his concerts. He didnt care about the money. 

[efcfanwirral]

12 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

she had to back off because of the mess created in the first round of onsales. It was going to be there from the get go. Even vip packages lasted longer during the euro sales cause of the high cost. They changed them to regular tickets and they were gone.  Taylors Rep Tour and Lover Fest shows had platinum and dynamic. Girls not a saint.

 

but the thing is, its ruined a lot now because she did a 3 hour show and now apparently everyone has to do the same and  at a fair cost or they got ripped off. Thats a disservice to all other artists. f**k that.   And im sorry, itll never compare to watching Prince perform for 3 hours for $25 because he wanted everyone to be able to see his concerts. He didnt care about the money. 

I think its fair to say Oasis couldn't do close to 3 hours with Liam maintaining any kind of singing voice 

[MrZigster]

2 hours ago, efcfanwirral said:

I think its fair to say Oasis couldn't do close to 3 hours with Liam maintaining any kind of singing voice 

That is a very good point.

[MilkyJoe]

8 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

The change likely to come from this is Ticketmaster will have to put some disclaimer as part of the queue, I suppose that’s progress in terms of transparency, whether it makes any real difference I have my doubts. I suspect such a disclaimer would not have stopped many queuing and even those who will claim it would have stopped them, I suspect for many in reality it wouldn’t.

 

If people think this will end dynamic pricing I think they will be disappointed. The only thing that ends it is people refusing to pay and not enough are willing to make that kind of stand.

More transparency around dynamic pricing would seem to be the most likely outcome here. I can’t see the end of it to be honest due to the fact it’s everywhere. I guess It would actually be pretty simple to say that it is unlawful to sell a ticket at more than face value though then it would be entirely up to the promoter/band to price accordingly.