NOS Alive 2025

[just_one]

Paramore aint big enough to headline NOS Alive or Mad Cool

[matrainertje]

22 minutes ago, just_one said:

Paramore aint big enough to headline NOS Alive or Mad Cool

Nobody is claiming this?

[Joao182]

No surprises here

[Yokai]

Would take Justice, Bloc Party, Royel Otis, but... I guess it will be a skip for me this year.

[St Jimmy]

Pretty much the same of Nos, who is this freaking headline missed at both of Nos and MC?

[PDomingos]

14 minutes ago, St Jimmy said:

Pretty much the same of Nos, who is this freaking headline missed at both of Nos and MC?

Probably Alanis Morissette.

It will be Olivia Rodrigo, KOL and Alanis the headliners

Edited Thursday at 04:21 PM by PDomingos

[Joao182]

9 minutes ago, PDomingos said:

Probably Alanis Morissette.

It will be Olivia Rodrigo, KOL and Alanis the headliners

Alanis is out for Nos

[spacedementia]

I can imagine something like Gracie Abrams + Justice for the 11th.

 

But they might be waiting for another headliner, this isn't the full Mad Cool lineup

[just_one]

Muse aint saving sh*t.

 

sorry to say this but this might be one of the worse editions of NOS Alive.

 

really doubt they will sell out this year.

 

Muse cant move 55k tickets, not even with King of Leon as a co headliner.

[Joao182]

9 minutes ago, just_one said:

Muse aint saving sh*t.

 

sorry to say this but this might be one of the worse editions of NOS Alive.

 

really doubt they will sell out this year.

 

Muse cant move 55k tickets, not even with King of Leon as a co headliner.

Muse is a household name in Portugal and all over the world

They are a good headliner.

[just_one]

1 minute ago, Joao182 said:

Muse is a household name in Portugal and all over the world

They are a good headliner.

im not saying they arent and i love them live but after 2019 they didnt sold very well in the same venue as Alive is and there is no way they can move 50k/55k even being a festival.

[Joao182]

1 minute ago, just_one said:

im not saying they arent and i love them live but after 2019 they didnt sold very well in the same venue as Alive is and there is no way they can move 50k/55k even being a festival.

Well people dont buy tickets for just the headliner, I think muse can still move 30-40k

rest of tickets for the rest of the acts, you have a sold out day (Plus nos alive is known to give away a ton of tickets to brands, even if the line up is weak, the venue will be full for sure)

[St Jimmy]

43 minutes ago, just_one said:

Muse aint saving sh*t.

 

sorry to say this but this might be one of the worse editions of NOS Alive.

 

really doubt they will sell out this year.

 

Muse cant move 55k tickets, not even with King of Leon as a co headliner.

Yeah one of the worst i've ever seen, def skipping NOS next year

[charlierc]

2 hours ago, just_one said:

Muse aint saving sh*t.

 

sorry to say this but this might be one of the worse editions of NOS Alive.

 

really doubt they will sell out this year.

 

Muse cant move 55k tickets, not even with King of Leon as a co headliner.

I'm not convinced it is Muse - surely if they've already been announced for 5 festival shows in Europe in June, they don't need to be held back by both Mad Cool and NOS Alive?

 

I'm not sure who else it could be though. Paramore? System of a Down? Maybe some other big name we haven't previously considered?

[charlierc]

10 hours ago, Yokai said:

She is playing in London on the 10th and 11th. 

 

Seems impossible to me. 

Well I guess this is one way that we find out that Billie Eilish and Finneas perform separately rather than having Finneas in the Eilish backing band.

[joaommaia]

About the missing headliner, two options:

1. It was Foo Fighters and now NOS Alive, Mad Cool and probably Open'er are trying to find a solution.

2. The missing headliner is booked, but they don't have green light to announce. Of course, this option don't necessarily rule out the first one.

[mln]

7 hours ago, joaommaia said:

About the missing headliner, two options:

1. It was Foo Fighters and now NOS Alive, Mad Cool and probably Open'er are trying to find a solution.

2. The missing headliner is booked, but they don't have green light to announce. Of course, this option don't necessarily rule out the first one.

Foos headlined Open'er this year

[gigi21]

On 12/19/2024 at 1:13 PM, Dazrigby88 said:

to me it shows how confused and devoid of identity festivals have become.. Back in the day, most festivals would cater to a specific audience. You'd have rock festvials, pop festivals etc... Sure, there'd be different genres, but you knew the audience they were aiming their product at... These days, the older festivals have all lost their identity completely and try to cater to all, and this is what we get - bubblegum pop acts sharing a stage with heavy rock and metal bands. It's really quite bizarre when you think abou tit, but I guess that's the world we live in! Ha

It's crazy (and very sad to me) to think about how things changed in a few years.
I came to NOS Alive for the first time in 2016 (and then came back again the year after). 3-day tickets were 119€ and we got Radiohead, The Chemical Brothers, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Pixies, Robert Plant, Foals, M83, Biffy Clyro, Two Door Cinema Club, The 1975, Wolf Alice, Father John Misty, Band Of Horses, Grimes, Soulwax, Hot Chip, 2ManyDJs, John Grant, Calexico, Jose Gonzalez, Four Tet, Courtney Barnett and some others (Paus among local bands, amazing live set). It was one of the best festivals on Earth both in terms of quality acts and value and was plenty of music passionates from all over Europe (sold out months in advance, obviously).
Now we're discussing wether the new pop star or the old rock band are able to sell 50k 200€-tickets by themselves... But festivals should be much more and NOS Alive used to be much more than this, only a few years ago.

[pryce]

Music tastes change, people get older, 2016 was a long time ago.

 

if pop music sold more live tickets than rock music back then, then festivals would of booked them

 

there were no pop festivals as far as im aware of, people were not going to see Destinys Child, Steps and S Club 7 headline a festival back then. V Festival tried it a few years too early and it failed.

 

People now will pay to see Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift, Billie Eillish ...

 

People listen to different genres now thanks to streaming, i see that as a good thing

 

i had an absolute blast watching Idles followed by Lizzo a few years ago. i cant stand a festival that is only one genre anymore.

 

before you listened to the one radio station that played the music you liked or watched the one tv channel that played the music you liked, and were never exposed to anything different.

 

its also harder for a band to make it big, if they do its because younger people make them big and the older generation who yearn for Green Day, Slipknot and Foo Fighters every year dismiss them as a young persons fodder.

 

im waffling now, i wont be going to this years Nos, not for me this year, but plenty of people will and good for them, not me to say they are ruining festivals because they like different bands to me.

[49Lawson]

16 minutes ago, gigi21 said:

It's crazy (and very sad to me) to think about how things changed in a few years.
I came to NOS Alive for the first time in 2016 (and then came back again the year after). 3-day tickets were 119€ and we got Radiohead, The Chemical Brothers, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Pixies, Robert Plant, Foals, M83, Biffy Clyro, Two Door Cinema Club, The 1975, Wolf Alice, Father John Misty, Band Of Horses, Grimes, Soulwax, Hot Chip, 2ManyDJs, John Grant, Calexico, Jose Gonzalez, Four Tet, Courtney Barnett and some others (Paus among local bands, amazing live set). It was one of the best festivals on Earth both in terms of quality acts and value and was plenty of music passionates from all over Europe (sold out months in advance, obviously).
Now we're discussing wether the new pop star or the old rock band are able to sell 50k 200€-tickets by themselves... But festivals should be much more and NOS Alive used to be much more than this, only a few years ago.

You make a great point @gigi21. Personally, I think it's a two factor problem, the first being what I call 'The Glastonbury conundrum' and the second being the general audience's change in how they consume music.

 

Before the pandemic, festivals would be full of acts who were bigger names, mixed with great up and comers and you felt there was a genuine sense of pride in who could book the biggest line up possible. You had a fixed core about 10 years ago in Europe of the 'big festivals' (Glasto, Werchter, Roskilde, Sziget, Benicassim, Nos etc) but then more and more smaller to mid sized festivals popped up, meaning the acts got further divided between these and then people paying more to get bands on 'exclusives' which took up more of their line up budget. Since the pandemic, I think there is only Glastonbury which sells out regularly, and it is a totally different kind of festival to a lot of these as it has sort of become a TV event now in the UK. It's the only festival which could book a totally uncohesive run on a stage of (for eg) Lewis Capaldi > Lizzo > Guns N Roses and no one bats an eyelid. 10 years ago, I don't know about others but we used to take pride in saying (for eg, at Werchter 14) 'can't believe we saw Placebo, Damon Albarn, Robert Plant and Metallica all on one day' and the days used to be great for a core audience. Loads and loads of festivals have tried to become Glasto now though, where they don't book cohesively and instead try and book themselves as 'something for everybody' (oh, you like KOL and your friend likes ORod, well we have both of those) whereas I do honestly believe a festival would sell far more tickets if they stuck to a genre/style (or a deviation or two within their core) than trying to offer 3 totally different experiences each day. If you look outside of Glasto, the only festivals which regularly sell out are things like C2C, Creamfields, Tomorrowland, Bloodstock etc, things which lock into a style and book a line up around that audience. I was at Nos in 2016 because they booked that line up you said, I wouldn't have been there if they booked (for eg) Rhianna, Rammstein and Calvin Harris (just looking at other festivals around that time which had those headliners, who would have been more than big enough but it wouldn't have worked for me personally).

 

The second is that the modern audience pays £9.99 or whatever it is a month for Spotify or Apple Music and they have nearly all the music ever at their fingertips. Audiences don't have to pay for music the way they did, which hits artists in the pocket so they need to recoup the money somehow to make it a viable living. At the same time, social media has given rise to enormous F.O.M.O. with the audience coming through. Therefore, bands who would have been one time one-hit wonders or line up filler are now getting elevated beyond belief. Acts like Noah Kahan charging over £100 a ticket and selling out Hyde Park because Stick Season was popular for a bit just wouldn't happen 10 years ago really. But even emerging from the pandemic, you had festivals in the UK really focusing on these sorts of artists and it just fully clutters a line up and festival experience. We were desperate for some sort of festival in 2021 and went to TRNSMT in Glasgow and I remember sitting some chips sat on a bench when AJ Tracey was on. The crowd was full of 18 year olds just stood there, looking at their phones, chatting amongst themselves until he played Ladbroke Grove. The field went bezerk, nearly everyone on their phones recording the song and singing along. And then silence again. 

 

I'm not saying that has never happened in the past because it obviously will have, but festivals now in the UK are mostly just locking on to these one hit acts to sell out to an audience year on year, instead of trying to continue the flow of elevating bands up the line up album by album until they've got 3 or 4 under their belt and then taking a punt on them to ensure a constant flow keeps the industry sustained. 

 

I'm not certain there'll be as many of the big festivals existing in about 10 years or so because I don't know if the acts are there to sustain them the way they were before. I've just really waffled on their a bit but I absolutely love going to music festivals and I just want to see them return to a glory which I was sadly just to young to fully be a part of. They'll probably have their time again, and we'll all find somewhere for a great time next Summer I'm sure. Personally I'm going to give Rock For People a go next year and see what that is like. But yeah, 2025 is looking like another less than vintage year across the board really...

[Dazrigby88]

55 minutes ago, pryce said:

Music tastes change, people get older, 2016 was a long time ago.

 

if pop music sold more live tickets than rock music back then, then festivals would of booked them

 

there were no pop festivals as far as im aware of, people were not going to see Destinys Child, Steps and S Club 7 headline a festival back then. V Festival tried it a few years too early and it failed.

 

People now will pay to see Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift, Billie Eillish ...

 

People listen to different genres now thanks to streaming, i see that as a good thing

 

i had an absolute blast watching Idles followed by Lizzo a few years ago. i cant stand a festival that is only one genre anymore.

 

before you listened to the one radio station that played the music you liked or watched the one tv channel that played the music you liked, and were never exposed to anything different.

 

its also harder for a band to make it big, if they do its because younger people make them big and the older generation who yearn for Green Day, Slipknot and Foo Fighters every year dismiss them as a young persons fodder.

 

im waffling now, i wont be going to this years Nos, not for me this year, but plenty of people will and good for them, not me to say they are ruining festivals because they like different bands to me.

the bands he just listed from the 2016 edition span much more than one genre, though... In that list you have rock, indire, punk, electronic - it was an extremely diverse list. However, the main dofference is it isn'toverloaded with talentless marketing products who are on stage predominantly for how they look and how thye can dance. That's the main difference in my opinion. Far too much commercialisation.

 

Like you say, tastes change, but it's not down to people having more diverse tastes these days. In my opinion the opposite is true.

[Dazrigby88]

52 minutes ago, 49Lawson said:

You make a great point @gigi21. Personally, I think it's a two factor problem, the first being what I call 'The Glastonbury conundrum' and the second being the general audience's change in how they consume music.

 

Before the pandemic, festivals would be full of acts who were bigger names, mixed with great up and comers and you felt there was a genuine sense of pride in who could book the biggest line up possible. You had a fixed core about 10 years ago in Europe of the 'big festivals' (Glasto, Werchter, Roskilde, Sziget, Benicassim, Nos etc) but then more and more smaller to mid sized festivals popped up, meaning the acts got further divided between these and then people paying more to get bands on 'exclusives' which took up more of their line up budget. Since the pandemic, I think there is only Glastonbury which sells out regularly, and it is a totally different kind of festival to a lot of these as it has sort of become a TV event now in the UK. It's the only festival which could book a totally uncohesive run on a stage of (for eg) Lewis Capaldi > Lizzo > Guns N Roses and no one bats an eyelid. 10 years ago, I don't know about others but we used to take pride in saying (for eg, at Werchter 14) 'can't believe we saw Placebo, Damon Albarn, Robert Plant and Metallica all on one day' and the days used to be great for a core audience. Loads and loads of festivals have tried to become Glasto now though, where they don't book cohesively and instead try and book themselves as 'something for everybody' (oh, you like KOL and your friend likes ORod, well we have both of those) whereas I do honestly believe a festival would sell far more tickets if they stuck to a genre/style (or a deviation or two within their core) than trying to offer 3 totally different experiences each day. If you look outside of Glasto, the only festivals which regularly sell out are things like C2C, Creamfields, Tomorrowland, Bloodstock etc, things which lock into a style and book a line up around that audience. I was at Nos in 2016 because they booked that line up you said, I wouldn't have been there if they booked (for eg) Rhianna, Rammstein and Calvin Harris (just looking at other festivals around that time which had those headliners, who would have been more than big enough but it wouldn't have worked for me personally).

 

The second is that the modern audience pays £9.99 or whatever it is a month for Spotify or Apple Music and they have nearly all the music ever at their fingertips. Audiences don't have to pay for music the way they did, which hits artists in the pocket so they need to recoup the money somehow to make it a viable living. At the same time, social media has given rise to enormous F.O.M.O. with the audience coming through. Therefore, bands who would have been one time one-hit wonders or line up filler are now getting elevated beyond belief. Acts like Noah Kahan charging over £100 a ticket and selling out Hyde Park because Stick Season was popular for a bit just wouldn't happen 10 years ago really. But even emerging from the pandemic, you had festivals in the UK really focusing on these sorts of artists and it just fully clutters a line up and festival experience. We were desperate for some sort of festival in 2021 and went to TRNSMT in Glasgow and I remember sitting some chips sat on a bench when AJ Tracey was on. The crowd was full of 18 year olds just stood there, looking at their phones, chatting amongst themselves until he played Ladbroke Grove. The field went bezerk, nearly everyone on their phones recording the song and singing along. And then silence again. 

 

I'm not saying that has never happened in the past because it obviously will have, but festivals now in the UK are mostly just locking on to these one hit acts to sell out to an audience year on year, instead of trying to continue the flow of elevating bands up the line up album by album until they've got 3 or 4 under their belt and then taking a punt on them to ensure a constant flow keeps the industry sustained. 

 

I'm not certain there'll be as many of the big festivals existing in about 10 years or so because I don't know if the acts are there to sustain them the way they were before. I've just really waffled on their a bit but I absolutely love going to music festivals and I just want to see them return to a glory which I was sadly just to young to fully be a part of. They'll probably have their time again, and we'll all find somewhere for a great time next Summer I'm sure. Personally I'm going to give Rock For People a go next year and see what that is like. But yeah, 2025 is looking like another less than vintage year across the board really...

very well put, buddy ** clapping emoji** Some really good points made there. 

 

 

[ParanoidTourist]

2 hours ago, gigi21 said:

It's crazy (and very sad to me) to think about how things changed in a few years.
I came to NOS Alive for the first time in 2016 (and then came back again the year after). 3-day tickets were 119€ and we got Radiohead, The Chemical Brothers, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Pixies, Robert Plant, Foals, M83, Biffy Clyro, Two Door Cinema Club, The 1975, Wolf Alice, Father John Misty, Band Of Horses, Grimes, Soulwax, Hot Chip, 2ManyDJs, John Grant, Calexico, Jose Gonzalez, Four Tet, Courtney Barnett and some others (Paus among local bands, amazing live set). It was one of the best festivals on Earth both in terms of quality acts and value and was plenty of music passionates from all over Europe (sold out months in advance, obviously).
Now we're discussing wether the new pop star or the old rock band are able to sell 50k 200€-tickets by themselves... But festivals should be much more and NOS Alive used to be much more than this, only a few years ago.

 

Totally agree with your post. I was also at Nos Alive in 2016 and it´s amazing how much more diverse the line-up was only 8 years ago. 

[charlierc]

On 12/19/2024 at 10:12 PM, joaommaia said:

About the missing headliner, two options:

1. It was Foo Fighters and now NOS Alive, Mad Cool and probably Open'er are trying to find a solution.

2. The missing headliner is booked, but they don't have green light to announce. Of course, this option don't necessarily rule out the first one.

Would be left field if Foos suddenly decided to un-cancel and were actually now planning to go ahead with 2025 touring commitments.

 

Unlikely though given the buzz around that particular situation. Which, such is timing being a pain given I heard the plan was a big party to celebrate 30 years since the debut, given plans to mark 25 years since the debut had to be put on ice in 2020 because... well, we all know.