mandana Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 3 minutes ago, TheDayman said: Skin of the teeth stuff for me. I got Access Denied twice after I entered our reg details. Pressed back, cleared the form and retyped everything which thankfully worked. Then it was on to card details. 3 times my credit card didn't send an authentication message to my phone. I ended up jumping to another in the groups credit card and only after the 2nd attempt did the authorisation message eventually appear... I had 8 seconds left before the tickets were released and I'm pretty sure I was one of, if not the last, to bag them as my other computer popped up sold out seconds after I got the ticket confirmation page. Sweating. nightmare to dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetOnMyLand Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 4 minutes ago, Rose-Colored Boy said: There’d always be some people who tried to game it like this (it’s the main reason a ballot wouldn’t work) but it’d cut it down massively. Anything to make it any fairer can never be a bad thing even if there are always gonna be dickheads who try to spoil it. Was thinking about this last night while I couldn't sleep... Everyone would register everyone they know from their milkman to their Nan! Whichever registration got through would have 5 'genuine' people added to it, job done. Anybody playing by the rules would have next to no chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy98 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Long time lurker but first time poster - this will be Glastonbury No. 4 for me. Only one of our two groups got through and while I stared at a series of two bars, one friend in my group managed to get through just before the sold out message came out. I just wanted to thank the posters who talked about how they navigated the 'Access Denied' page as my friend would've definitely given up at that point, especially when it said all tickets were allocated...she kept refreshing and got to the payment page. And thank you to everyone for sharing their tips over the last couple of weeks - still feels like we're none the clearer on what boosts your chances of getting in faster. Still on Cloud 9 after this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knalbal24 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Mate of mine got in and purchased 6, reference number there, payment processed. However, we can't find our order on See, is this a problem, or do we just have to wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tickleyt Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 1 minute ago, Knalbal24 said: Mate of mine got in and purchased 6, reference number there, payment processed. However, we can't find our order on See, is this a problem, or do we just have to wait? Same here, desperate for it to work or to get an email 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetOnMyLand Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 1 minute ago, Knalbal24 said: Mate of mine got in and purchased 6, reference number there, payment processed. However, we can't find our order on See, is this a problem, or do we just have to wait? Same here... Don't panic!... Yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helsbels Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 11 minutes ago, TheDayman said: Skin of the teeth stuff for me. I got Access Denied twice after I entered our reg details. Pressed back, cleared the form and retyped everything which thankfully worked. Then it was on to card details. 3 times my credit card didn't send an authentication message to my phone. I ended up jumping to another in the groups credit card and only after the 2nd attempt did the authorisation message eventually appear... I had 8 seconds left before the tickets were released and I'm pretty sure I was one of, if not the last, to bag them as my other computer popped up sold out seconds after I got the ticket confirmation page. Sweating. OMG can't imagine what your heart rate was like but well done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsp8181 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 11 minutes ago, redrog said: If we must do this queuing system, they should make groups register their numbers to get in the queue so that you can’t have 50 machines. Will put a ton of load on the servers which is precisely what they did to try and avoid this situation And what happens if you just put your ex's reg number in to block them silently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsp8181 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Just seen this posted https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QyetvkeMuS4PlmjJJSC3lFBwB0ye_8j1jPDMj624Wrk/htmlview Apparently the code to generate queue-it links is in github so nice one seetickets for absolutely bottling it again this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 (edited) 21 minutes ago, GetOnMyLand said: Was thinking about this last night while I couldn't sleep... Everyone would register everyone they know from their milkman to their Nan! Whichever registration got through would have 5 'genuine' people added to it, job done. Anybody playing by the rules would have next to no chance! Not if you had to input the reg details for everyone to get into the waiting room. It’d essentially be moving the first page of the sale to the waiting room. If you can only enter the waiting room once per registration number then the multi-device thing would be knocked on the head. In terms of people registering multiple times, it would only need a system that flagged suspicious registrations with similar photos/names in the same postcode. There’d always be some people adding a second registration at their nan’s house but I’d like to hope the majority of people wouldn’t be that mean spirited. Edited November 17 by Rose-Colored Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looother Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Didn't like my chances of getting anywhere with my one computer at home, so I went to the office where I could have a dozen running at once. None of them did anything useful, but my daughter got through on my one computer at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat2 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 10 minutes ago, Knalbal24 said: Mate of mine got in and purchased 6, reference number there, payment processed. However, we can't find our order on See, is this a problem, or do we just have to wait? There isnt any need to panic at all, it will go through fine if the payment has been taken, the See order screen and emails can take some time to catch up after the sale. Its the same every year, relax! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidstorm523 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 4 minutes ago, gsp8181 said: Just seen this posted https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QyetvkeMuS4PlmjJJSC3lFBwB0ye_8j1jPDMj624Wrk/htmlview Apparently the code to generate queue-it links is in github so nice one seetickets for absolutely bottling it again this year. is that what hackers were selling or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetOnMyLand Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 A friend came through for me this morning to get me tickets. I'm super lucky. Some people aren't. Suitable donation made to Wateraid... If you're feeling super lucky too... https://www.wateraid.org/uk/donate/donate-now-one-off?id=RA/TPP/01A&gad_source=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someoni Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 7 minutes ago, dingbat2 said: There isnt any need to panic at all, it will go through fine if the payment has been taken, the See order screen and emails can take some time to catch up after the sale. Its the same every year, relax! This needs pinning 😅 If they've had the payment, you're all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat2 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 I am not sure how a genuine ballot could actually work (maybe put in you reg details and payment details before joining the queue) and how much it would put people off even trying in the future. The big question we still dont know if how many tickets could they have sold today v the actual 138,000 they actually sold. If there could have sold 1.4 million tickets, and we had a genuine ballot, I am not sure how we would feel knowing you can really only make it 1 in 10 Glastonburys on average? The current system still massively favours those who can organise themselves into large selling groups, the bigger the better. Only one in ten on here would have got a ticket if it was a genuine ballot system (assuming 1.4 million trying), there are still a lot of regulars on here who are still manging to get tickets every year, despite the levelling of the playing field somewhat this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WobblyPants Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 9 minutes ago, acidstorm523 said: is that what hackers were selling or something? Not necessarily hackers. these links are acquired by making thousands of requests to the waiting room, harvesting queue ids and then polling queue it with the IDs. You then pluck out the ‘direct link’ for the IDs which are at the front of the queue. They’re legitimate unique queue sessions obtained by a bot. Some bot owners will then sell these, but this person obviously had their fill and decided to dump them all on Reddit for anyone to use (you can only use each one once). I suspect they wanted to make a point about how easy this new system is to game for bot owners/developers who want to crack it. This system was particularly weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidstorm523 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 1 minute ago, WobblyPants said: Not necessarily hackers. these links are acquired by making thousands of requests to the waiting room, harvesting queue ids and then polling queue it with the IDs. You then pluck out the ‘direct link’ for the IDs which are at the front of the queue. They’re legitimate unique queue sessions obtained by a bot. Some bot owners will then sell these, but this person obviously had their fill and decided to dump them all on Reddit for anyone to use (you can only use each one once). I suspect they wanted to make a point about how easy this new system is to game for bot owners/developers who want to crack it. This system was particularly weak. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Just now, WobblyPants said: I suspect they wanted to make a point about how easy this new system is to game for bot owners/developers who want to crack it. It really, really is. Shockingly so. Anyone who's convinced themselves this is a fairer system is miles off. And I say that coming from a group that gamed the system to 100% success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandana Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 16 minutes ago, Looother said: Didn't like my chances of getting anywhere with my one computer at home, so I went to the office where I could have a dozen running at once. None of them did anything useful, but my daughter got through on my one computer at home. yikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonMcG Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 No luck here. We had one in our group get to the front of the queue but it was taking to a customer service request page rather than to input the registration numbers for each ticket. Were successful the past two years so as much as I'm disappointed, we've been luckier than others who have missed out several times in a row now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewieDC Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 28 minutes ago, gsp8181 said: Just seen this posted https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QyetvkeMuS4PlmjJJSC3lFBwB0ye_8j1jPDMj624Wrk/htmlview Apparently the code to generate queue-it links is in github so nice one seetickets for absolutely bottling it again this year. Jesus. Where do people get access to that kind of information? 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidstorm523 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 7 minutes ago, incident said: It really, really is. Shockingly so. Anyone who's convinced themselves this is a fairer system is miles off. And I say that coming from a group that gamed the system to 100% success. I’m totally gutted. Been going since the 90s and I’ve always played “fair”. No tickets today, and I feel no chance unless I’m willing to pay someone hacking the system. That just makes me feel so sad somehow. Must be getting old (I am) I don’t even know how to find these people anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtherabbithole Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 (edited) one hack taken from Reddit: 1 - download Firefox 2 - install the Firefox Multi-Account Containers add-on https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ 3 - before the sale on Sunday, manage your containers (use this link within Firefox: about:preferences#containers, or right click the new tab button and then manage containers) and set up a f**king lot of them, I would go for 100 (tech advice from a very knowledgeable person is that 200 is likely to be where you might get flagged as a bot, so anything below that should be safe) 4 - again, before the sale, open a new tab in every single one of your 100 containers (right click the new tab button at the top of Firefox and then choose a new container each time) 5 - open the Glastonbury ticket link in every single one of your open containers - https://glastonbury.seetickets.com/ 6 - as you paste the link in, just quickly check that your queue ID is different in every container (it should be, but no harm in being safe) 7 - when the sale starts, ctrl+tab through your different open containers constantly, noting which of your containers are nearly through, and then buy tickets when you get through!!!! I had exactly 100 containers open and 3 of them got to the front of the queue in time to buy tickets. There are roughly six times as many tickets on sale on Sunday, so ratio might be better, but just to give you an idea of the scale needed to make it work today. Once you have put registration details in, it IS safe to refresh if it tells you tickets are sold out. It may pop up asking you to confirm form resend (or similar), say yes, that is safe to do and it saves you having to re-input all the reg numbers for your group Still think the new system is fairer? Edited November 17 by downtherabbithole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlechef87 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 My mate got our group's at 9:12, then I got them for second group at 9:26. Unfortunately didn't get group 3 on time but not a bad result considering for 2019 only 1 group out of 5 or 6 in our circle managed it! Quite like the new system but probably wouldn't be saying that if I didn't have a ticket sooooo 🤷♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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