What if Glastonbury switched to Ticketmaster and Dynamic ticket pricing????

[tarw]

19 minutes ago, Furq said:

No, no, I meant 'hospitality tickets'.

Was quite susprised when I heard about them being sold for £1000ish.
 

On the flipside, it makes sense that the number of free tickets is restricted.

 

All good.

Ah right hospitality tickets. 

The festival does sell those!  I’m not sure about the numbers but I would have thought that for each ticket that they sold they would need to provide a space in hospitality camping and probably at a lower density than general. I know that @Ayrshire Chris has been in the campsite and might have some idea of numbers. 
AFAIK the tickets are sold by the festival at about double the price as normal tickets but only to music industry people. Some of these might be sold on by some companies at a higher price 

Edited September 10 by tarw
Typo

[Ayrshire Chris]

3 hours ago, tarw said:

Ah right hospitality tickets. 

The festival does sell those!  I’m not sure about the numbers but I would have thought that for each ticket that they sold they would need to provide a space in hospitality camping and probably at a lower density than general. I know that @Ayrshire Chris has been in the campsite and might have some idea of numbers. 
AFAIK the tickets are sold by the festival at about double the price as normal tickets but only to music industry people. Some of these might be sold on by some companies at a higher price 

Hospitality tickets were £750 plus vat. The festival insist they are sold at face value only, and I suppose this extra income helps keep the basic ticket prices down.
 Havnt a clue how many tickets are available for media, music industry etc but the hospitality area behind the pyramid was busy, as was the hospitality camping area.
the tickets have your name printed on them and to get the wristband and access to the site you need to show a passport or driving licence as proof of identity. Need to show that every time you enter the site. 
 Artists must get them as I spoke to the parents of someone playing the other stage! 
a few landowners get a very limited allocation of these tickets and sell them as part of glamping packages.  Seems this is in return for using fields for parking etc. 

Edited September 10 by Ayrshire Chris

[CharlotteB]

23 hours ago, DeanoL said:

No, but it means you are actually okay with people paying different money for the same seat. So that's not actually your issue. 

 

But they're not really paying different money for the same seat in those situations because they've paid a price elsewhere. They're getting a discount on merit. The dynamic pricing system is based on arbitrary greed, and two people who are on the same footing are paying a completely different price for the same thing. Bringing blue card discounts into this is just deflecting because it isn't even relevant.

[DeanoL]

On 9/11/2024 at 8:54 AM, CharlotteB said:

The dynamic pricing system is based on arbitrary greed, and two people who are on the same footing are paying a completely different price for the same thing. 

No-one is "on the same footing" though. Maybe someone works for Oxfam, maybe someone is a teacher, maybe someone does any of a million things that should class as "merit" but just don't happen to get a discount because it's not the NHS.

 

You're not wrong about the greed element, but that's the problem here. Pricing to extract as much money as they can from the consumer. The problem isn't that you're stood next to someone who paid more/less.

[CharlotteB]

6 hours ago, DeanoL said:

No-one is "on the same footing" though. Maybe someone works for Oxfam, maybe someone is a teacher, maybe someone does any of a million things that should class as "merit" but just don't happen to get a discount because it's not the NHS.

 

You're not wrong about the greed element, but that's the problem here. Pricing to extract as much money as they can from the consumer. The problem isn't that you're stood next to someone who paid more/less.

 

As far as the algorithm goes you're on the same footing. Yet you get charged different prices.

[gherkin8r]

Maybe if they did dynamic pricing they could afford to book some half decent headliners next year 

 

*Runs for cover*

[dotdash79]

12 minutes ago, gherkin8r said:

*Runs for cover*

The killers did it in 2019

[Furq]

On 9/10/2024 at 2:37 PM, Ayrshire Chris said:

Hospitality tickets were £750 plus vat. The festival insist they are sold at face value only, and I suppose this extra income helps keep the basic ticket prices down.
 Havnt a clue how many tickets are available for media, music industry etc but the hospitality area behind the pyramid was busy, as was the hospitality camping area.
the tickets have your name printed on them and to get the wristband and access to the site you need to show a passport or driving licence as proof of identity. Need to show that every time you enter the site. 
 Artists must get them as I spoke to the parents of someone playing the other stage! 
a few landowners get a very limited allocation of these tickets and sell them as part of glamping packages.  Seems this is in return for using fields for parking etc. 

Well now we know YouTube/Google buy (or are given) a batch of Glastonbury VIP (sorry, 'hospitality') tickets... which I guess it's free to assign as it pleases...?!

"Take the case of Jonathan Reynolds, Labour’s (then shadow) business secretary. In June 2023, Reynolds and two senior staff went to Glastonbury as guests of YouTube (which is owned by Google). Including accommodation and ‘hospitality’, Reynolds estimates his Glastonbury package for two was worth £3,377. Two regular tickets were £335 each.

"Until then, Labour was promising to increase the digital service tax from 2% to 10%, which would bring in billions from giants like Google and Facebook. Literally the day after the festival, it emerged that Reynolds had ditched the policy. Voters would have to accept austerity instead."

https://novaramedia.com/2024/09/23/reporters-are-asking-the-wrong-questions-about-labours-freebie-fiasco/
 

[gfa]

3 minutes ago, Furq said:

Well now we know YouTube/Google buy (or are given) a batch of Glastonbury VIP (sorry, 'hospitality') tickets... which I guess it's free to assign as it pleases...?!

"Take the case of Jonathan Reynolds, Labour’s (then shadow) business secretary. In June 2023, Reynolds and two senior staff went to Glastonbury as guests of YouTube (which is owned by Google). Including accommodation and ‘hospitality’, Reynolds estimates his Glastonbury package for two was worth £3,377. Two regular tickets were £335 each.

"Until then, Labour was promising to increase the digital service tax from 2% to 10%, which would bring in billions from giants like Google and Facebook. Literally the day after the festival, it emerged that Reynolds had ditched the policy. Voters would have to accept austerity instead."

https://novaramedia.com/2024/09/23/reporters-are-asking-the-wrong-questions-about-labours-freebie-fiasco/
 

This was hardly unknown - big companies were clearly able to buy tickets e.g. hospitality, whether directly from the fest or through 3rd parties

 

Didn't tiktok have some as well

Edited 2 hours ago by gfa

[Ayrshire Chris]

10 minutes ago, Furq said:

Well now we know YouTube/Google buy (or are given) a batch of Glastonbury VIP (sorry, 'hospitality') tickets... which I guess it's free to assign as it pleases...?!

"Take the case of Jonathan Reynolds, Labour’s (then shadow) business secretary. In June 2023, Reynolds and two senior staff went to Glastonbury as guests of YouTube (which is owned by Google). Including accommodation and ‘hospitality’, Reynolds estimates his Glastonbury package for two was worth £3,377. Two regular tickets were £335 each.

"Until then, Labour was promising to increase the digital service tax from 2% to 10%, which would bring in billions from giants like Google and Facebook. Literally the day after the festival, it emerged that Reynolds had ditched the policy. Voters would have to accept austerity instead."

https://novaramedia.com/2024/09/23/reporters-are-asking-the-wrong-questions-about-labours-freebie-fiasco/
 

I understand when hospitality tickets are sold to media etc the companies have to give the names of those in receipt of the tickets to the festival office in advance of the festival. Tickets are printed with the name of the recipient and photo ID such as passports shown when the tickets are exchanged for wristbands, and names checked against the festival list.  Politicians have always appeared as guests, reckon many use media connections. Even Boris bloody Johnson has been spotted in the past. 

[incident]

3 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

Even Boris bloody Johnson has been spotted in the past. 

 

As a guest of Billy Bragg, no less.

[dotdash79]

1 hour ago, Furq said:

Well now we know YouTube/Google buy (or are given) a batch of Glastonbury VIP (sorry, 'hospitality') tickets... which I guess it's free to assign as it pleases...?!

"Take the case of Jonathan Reynolds, Labour’s (then shadow) business secretary. In June 2023, Reynolds and two senior staff went to Glastonbury as guests of YouTube (which is owned by Google). Including accommodation and ‘hospitality’, Reynolds estimates his Glastonbury package for two was worth £3,377. Two regular tickets were £335 each.

"Until then, Labour was promising to increase the digital service tax from 2% to 10%, which would bring in billions from giants like Google and Facebook. Literally the day after the festival, it emerged that Reynolds had ditched the policy. Voters would have to accept austerity instead."

https://novaramedia.com/2024/09/23/reporters-are-asking-the-wrong-questions-about-labours-freebie-fiasco/
 

I believe these were purchased via the Glastonbury popup hotel, as I saw on instagram some influencer staying there as guest of pixel (googles phone brand)