Glasto96 Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 Anyone else think this made things even worse than previous years? I can’t remember who was on or the exact time but Saturday daytime the queue down the left side to get into the Park area was a shambles. Barely moving for half an hour with no way to turn back as the crowd was so congested. Surely there has to be a better way to sort the area out of overcrowding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben7amin_ Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 6 hours ago, Glasto96 said: Anyone else think this made things even worse than previous years? I can’t remember who was on or the exact time but Saturday daytime the queue down the left side to get into the Park area was a shambles. Barely moving for half an hour with no way to turn back as the crowd was so congested. Surely there has to be a better way to sort the area out of overcrowding? Barry Can't Swim & The Jarvis/Alexis DJ set was on Stonebridge. It was definitely necessary to do something for crowd control (while I agree the solution was problematic) - though I can not help feeling - it might have worked better the other way round - where people could only enter at the bottom of the park and exist out the side. As a lot of the trouble was people arriving at the front of the park to be told they could not get in (i suspect this is what a lot of people consider the "normal" way to get in) No idea if there was any attempt to communicate via the app or not - perhaps someone can shed some light on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Ben7amin_ said: Barry Can't Swim & The Jarvis/Alexis DJ set was on Stonebridge. It was definitely necessary to do something for crowd control (while I agree the solution was problematic) - though I can not help feeling - it might have worked better the other way round - where people could only enter at the bottom of the park and exist out the side. As a lot of the trouble was people arriving at the front of the park to be told they could not get in (i suspect this is what a lot of people consider the "normal" way to get in) No idea if there was any attempt to communicate via the app or not - perhaps someone can shed some light on that. That's strange, why would they have people entering at the side and leaving at the bottom? Last year, it was the way you described and seemed alright. Obviously there were more people entering and people could leave before or after Stonebridge Bar. Thought it kind of made sense doing it like that, because as you say, the common thought would be that the main entrance is the one with the big arches and The Park sign etc. Edited September 2 by MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Interesting Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 13 minutes ago, Ben7amin_ said: it might have worked better the other way round - where people could only enter at the bottom of the park and exist out the side. I agree that would have worked better. One of the two times we saw it in use we needed the loo so went right before the bottom entrance, stewards were fine with that if you wanted the loos, but when we came out there was nobody stopping people from the other direction entering at the bottom, so we joined them and missed the narrow and long queue up towards the side entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 If you enter the Park arena at the bottom when it's busy you immediately hit the front of the crowd. Sending people up to the top so they fill in from the back is absolutely the right way to manage it. They do the same in the Pyramid Field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkyJoe Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 As others have said it seems a backwards way of doing things. Maybe it was just to slow down the people entering by creating a bottleneck rather than have masses coming through the wider entrance at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 If Stonebridge is heaving and the Park stage is in full swing, entering from the top left hand side is going to bring you into a wall of people. Seems counterproductive to me. And if you're not in the Park area for the two main music centres, you've then got to negotiate through huge crowds to get to where you actually want to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 It will bring you into the back of a wall of people - which seems fine? Better than channelling late arrivals direct into the stagefront area. It's only in place for very busy acts - in recent years its probably only been in place for Wet Leg, Fatboy Slim and Barry Cant Swim. If you're just heading in for a mezze platter or to do play with the Sandalism it's a bad idea anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justcalledtosay Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) There were some major crushes at the entry point for the top of Arcadia/bottom of the park in 2022, so i imagine they wanted two different entry points although i can't imagine there was a lot of demand for Arcadia at that time of day... Edited September 2 by Justcalledtosay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, Justcalledtosay said: There were some major crushes at the entry point for the top of Arcadia/bottom of the park in 2022, so i imagine they wanted two different entry points although i can't imagine there was a lot of demand for Arcadia at that time of day... That area's been revised - the throughways are now much wider (and I think a bank of longdrops have also been removed) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 Thankfully I missed such nonsense. It is,however, more evidence that there are far too many people on site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 1 minute ago, Skip997 said: Thankfully I missed such nonsense. It is,however, more evidence that there are far too many people on site The Park is a small area. If they sold 50% fewer tickets overall but a hefty chunk of the remainder all wanted to check out a secret set or a hyped up name you'd still get a log jam of people into the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGATRONICMEATWAGON Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 For me at least, it still seems odd that they'd do it that way. If most people are at the back end of the field at SB and PS, you'd be filling in the Park directly into the gap at the traditional entrance and centre, avoiding a log jam down the side where the narrow walkways were. By filling it in from the side, people either join the crowds at the SB or PS - causing more crowding on the walkways, leaving the entrance more empty. I guess there's gonna be people waiting either way, and the only positive I can think of is, is that it would avoid people clogging up the main crossroads where Arcadia, the Park, and Pennards meets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 3 hours ago, Ben7amin_ said: Barry Can't Swim & The Jarvis/Alexis DJ set was on Stonebridge. It was definitely necessary to do something for crowd control (while I agree the solution was problematic) - though I can not help feeling - it might have worked better the other way round - where people could only enter at the bottom of the park and exist out the side. As a lot of the trouble was people arriving at the front of the park to be told they could not get in (i suspect this is what a lot of people consider the "normal" way to get in) No idea if there was any attempt to communicate via the app or not - perhaps someone can shed some light on that. I'm not sure crushing people uphill on the way in is a good idea, its pretty sloped. It also brings you to the front of the crowd, not allowing anyone to move around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlotteB Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 3 hours ago, Ben7amin_ said: Barry Can't Swim & The Jarvis/Alexis DJ set was on Stonebridge. It was definitely necessary to do something for crowd control (while I agree the solution was problematic) - though I can not help feeling - it might have worked better the other way round - where people could only enter at the bottom of the park and exist out the side. As a lot of the trouble was people arriving at the front of the park to be told they could not get in (i suspect this is what a lot of people consider the "normal" way to get in) No idea if there was any attempt to communicate via the app or not - perhaps someone can shed some light on that. That definitely would've worked better. Entering at the bottom just seems the right way (I do realise that sentence in isolation could be taken massively out of context). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben7amin_ Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) 3 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said: It will bring you into the back of a wall of people - which seems fine? Better than channelling late arrivals direct into the stagefront area. It's only in place for very busy acts - in recent years its probably only been in place for Wet Leg, Fatboy Slim and Barry Cant Swim. If you're just heading in for a mezze platter or to do play with the Sandalism it's a bad idea anyway. While i get what you are saying, However the Stonebridge bar was absolutely rammed (Jarvis Coker B2B Alexis Taylor)- and had a big crust of people outside it, away from the queue so as opposed to entering the field straight into the back of the park crowd you were walking into the park area immediately into the Crust outside the stonebridge. the area witht he yellow circle here is where the most congestion was - If the Stonebridge bar was a less popular venue then entering the side might have made sense - but while its as popular as it is - this really did not work for me Perhaps some stewarding to move people on from this area might have made it work better Edited September 2 by Ben7amin_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 Fair enough - with a big old crowd outside the Stonebridge I can see how that would get less optimal. However that's pretty rare for day-time and usually that throughway is free of people. Otherwise the old adage applies - if you want to see an act and it promises to be busy just plan to get there early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, gfa said: I'm not sure crushing people uphill on the way in is a good idea, its pretty sloped. It also brings you to the front of the crowd, not allowing anyone to move around By having the entrance on the side they definitely succeeded on crushing people on the way in - Id definitely prefer the wider uphill route This would make sense if they got rid of the stonebridge bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, AVALON.G said: By having the entrance on the side they definitely succeeded on crushing people on the way in - Id definitely prefer the wider uphill route This would make sense if they got rid of the stonebridge bar I don't see how crushing people in going uphill would be safe with nowhere to go, squeezing them in between packed stonebridge and park. at least coming in from the side people can just head up the hill if they want to get out vs being inbetween a horde and barry's crowd To be honest though - the issue isn't the operation of the one-way system, its booking acts in stupid slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Particular Grey Chihuahu Posted September 2 Report Share Posted September 2 (edited) I didn't even notice a one way system 🤔 Edit: sorry, took the time to read the full post and realised my mistake lol Edited September 2 by A Particular Grey Chihuahu Explained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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