Other Stage Headliner / Pyramid Sub Headliners

[Benjsh]

LCD were better than all 3 Pyramid headliners for me but then they are one of my all time favourite groups so I would say that. 

 

Still think their 2016 headline slot takes the top prize though. That was a special special night. 

[Ben7amin_]

8 hours ago, Benjsh said:

LCD were better than all 3 Pyramid headliners for me but then they are one of my all time favourite groups so I would say that. 

 

Still think their 2016 headline slot takes the top prize though. That was a special special night. 

 

Missed the Pyramid headliners last year (though did watch all three on Iplayer after).  I would say Simzy & LCD were much better than the actual headliners. For me anyway 

Edited October 14 by Ben7amin_

[gfa]

12 hours ago, mufcok said:

Fontaines update - being led to believe they've opted not to take the slot. Couldn't say for sure, but I suspect it's right.

 

I will be able to confirm 100%, but likely not until the start of December. Just thought I'd provide an update, based on what I've been told (original post was always with the caveat that they were undecided).

Quite mad they didn't take it, probably the biggest slot they will ever get at glasto (can't see them making it all the way to be honest)

 

At least we get Yungblud.......

[NorthernSoul52]

I've got to say, it may have been helped by the headliner after them, but LCD Soundsystem and Little Simz both pulled far bigger crowds than I expected - and both knocked it out of the park.

[northernangel]

10 hours ago, sisco said:

Yet Little Simz and LCD were viewed as 2 of the best performances of the whole weekend 

I got the general thing while waiting for Coldplay than many people were standing through for their spot. It was generally just a younger female fan base that were making a point of who was on from where I was.

[mufcok]

22 minutes ago, gfa said:

Quite mad they didn't take it, probably the biggest slot they will ever get at glasto (can't see them making it all the way to be honest)

 

At least we get Yungblud.......

 

It's quite ballsy, with the intention (I imagine) being to headline the whole thing.

 

I think they should be taking it, personally, but then I'm a bit obsessed so I would say that selfishly 

[gfa]

19 minutes ago, mufcok said:

 

It's quite ballsy, with the intention (I imagine) being to headline the whole thing.

 

I think they should be taking it, personally, but then I'm a bit obsessed so I would say that selfishly 

Yeah i'm still yet to see them so would have liked them to do it (although likely would have prioritised someone else at sub headliner time).

 

They can definitely just take it in 2027 i guess, unless they drop off massively somehow

[CaledonianGonzo]

Sounds like they expect to be headlining the whole thing by then....also in the camp that just doesn't see it. Not sure if they have sufficient crossover appeal.

[Quark]

Assumption of headliner or bust mentality from the band, but also possible that they're self-aware enough to recognise the risk of becoming viewed as a Glastonbury house band with 4 out of 5 recent festivals if they do next year (to @wro_lap's point)

 

If it's the former then yeah, they might be overreaching.  But the latter could well be good sense. If you're on the up you want to strike a balance between visibility and just being omnipresent and your shows being so common as to be unremarkable.

[mufcok]

I personally think Romance is the best thing I've heard for a few years.

 

They'll need a follow up record that smashes it in the lead up to 2027 though, if they are to headline

[northernangel]

2 hours ago, mufcok said:

 

It's quite ballsy, with the intention (I imagine) being to headline the whole thing.

 

I think they should be taking it, personally, but then I'm a bit obsessed so I would say that selfishly 

 

2 hours ago, gfa said:

Yeah i'm still yet to see them so would have liked them to do it (although likely would have prioritised someone else at sub headliner time).

 

They can definitely just take it in 2027 i guess, unless they drop off massively somehow

 

1 hour ago, Quark said:

Assumption of headliner or bust mentality from the band, but also possible that they're self-aware enough to recognise the risk of becoming viewed as a Glastonbury house band with 4 out of 5 recent festivals if they do next year (to @wro_lap's point)

 

If it's the former then yeah, they might be overreaching.  But the latter could well be good sense. If you're on the up you want to strike a balance between visibility and just being omnipresent and your shows being so common as to be unremarkable.

Yeah see as a neutral why people would say take it but I also get why they would think playing that many time on the bounce without it being the top slot might just stop them at sub point. I think it's ballsy but they are probably overall doing the right thing whereby with another strong album it puts them directly in the headliner conversation.

[clasher]

The way I read this is "we'll be on our next album/tour cycle in (around) 2027".

 

That doesn't necessarily mean headline or bust, but they probably feel confident they'll be bigger then and rightly so.

[gfa]

2 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Sounds like they expect to be headlining the whole thing by then....also in the camp that just doesn't see it. Not sure if they have sufficient crossover appeal.

maybe reading in the fallow year perhaps (second headliner maybe). I agree with you - can't see them getting the necessary crossover appeal at present

[NorthernSoul52]

I wouldn't rule Fontaines out, but with the arguable more pop-skewed pick of the headliners this year and seemingly next - nearest you get to a "rock" headliner is Coldplay or Rodrigo - I think they would face a fight to overhaul over guitar-leading artists. They're still well off the draw of a Sam Fender or a The 1975, for example.

[wro_lap]

How many times has someone gone from headlining a stage like Woodsies or The Park to headlining Other or subbing/headlining the Pyramid? Only examples I can think of are The National and Biffy Clyro, neither of whom got all the way

[CaledonianGonzo]

Stormzy did the run from bottom of the bill to toppermost of the poppermost.

[Ben7amin_]

59 minutes ago, wro_lap said:

How many times has someone gone from headlining a stage like Woodsies or The Park to headlining Other or subbing/headlining the Pyramid? Only examples I can think of are The National and Biffy Clyro, neither of whom got all the way

 

Not happened for her yet headliner wise - but I think Little Simz first played Glastonbury at 2014 on the pussy parlour an old silver hayes stage,  not a bad jump to Sub-headliner.  

Edited October 14 by Ben7amin_

[gfa]

1 hour ago, wro_lap said:

How many times has someone gone from headlining a stage like Woodsies or The Park to headlining Other or subbing/headlining the Pyramid? Only examples I can think of are The National and Biffy Clyro, neither of whom got all the way

Some acts do build up more slowly than others.

 

Have the 1975 done a smaller stage headline - if they get booked then they would be one?

 

The xx maybe? not checked.

 

The dynamic of how acts grow has changed so much since covid that i'm not sure how much it matters. Is headlining woodsies / park that different to being booked for mid other and then going on to do it (ala Dua / Billie)

 

People used to obsess about this kinda thing a lot, not seen it recently to be fair

[Jack H]

Making a prediction of Charli XCX, Halsey, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds as other stage headliners '25 

[foolee]

5 minutes ago, Jack H said:

Making a prediction of Charli XCX, Halsey, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds as other stage headliners '25 

I feel like they’re all in the mix but wouldn’t be surprised to see Chase & Status or Biffy Clyro in there. Halsey would be class but reckon she’d be main stage sub for Fred. 
 

Gonna go Yungblud, Halsey & Jack White as pyramid subs and Chase & Status, Biffy Clyro & Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds as other headliners. 

[northernangel]

55 minutes ago, Jack H said:

Making a prediction of Charli XCX, Halsey, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds as other stage headliners '25 

 

Could just as easily be right

46 minutes ago, foolee said:

I feel like they’re all in the mix but wouldn’t be surprised to see Chase & Status or Biffy Clyro in there. Halsey would be class but reckon she’d be main stage sub for Fred. 
 

Gonna go Yungblud, Halsey & Jack White as pyramid subs and Chase & Status, Biffy Clyro & Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds as other headliners. 

 

I think your subs could be spot on or very similar. Jack White isn't taking anything but Pyramid sub unless it's a secret set and he won't do secret set two times running. His ego is too high to play other in my option.

 

I don't think your Other headliners will be far off. Biffy Clyro subbing and Halsey on Other I could easily see.

[Sam Y]

12 hours ago, gfa said:

Quite mad they didn't take it, probably the biggest slot they will ever get at glasto (can't see them making it all the way to be honest)

 

At least we get Yungblud.......

I'm sure they will get booked for again though,Finsbury Parks just sold out which I'm very surprised at

[wro_lap]

17 hours ago, gfa said:

Some acts do build up more slowly than others.

 

Have the 1975 done a smaller stage headline - if they get booked then they would be one?

 

The xx maybe? not checked.

 

The dynamic of how acts grow has changed so much since covid that i'm not sure how much it matters. Is headlining woodsies / park that different to being booked for mid other and then going on to do it (ala Dua / Billie)

 

People used to obsess about this kinda thing a lot, not seen it recently to be fair

Good shout with The xx! They headlined the Park, then Other, then subbed the Pyramid

[wro_lap]

18 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Stormzy did the run from bottom of the bill to toppermost of the poppermost.

Yeah there’s a good few who started outside of the main stages then made it to the top. Ed Sheeran, Stormzy, Adele, Florence, Dua Lipa (I think her first set was in Silver Hayes?). Rare that someone goes from headlining a stage to near the top though

[gfa]

16 hours ago, Jack H said:

Making a prediction of Charli XCX, Halsey, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds as other stage headliners '25 

Not sure they would be rushing to book Halsey - she did the reading second headliner last year and can't remember it making waves. Better than a repeat friend of festival i guess