Attending gigs solo

[stuie]

11 hours ago, MrZigster said:

 I guess. Sure I used to use it regularly as a route without bother. Does THE Kids Field have a similar policy? Possibly the only field on site I've never set foot in. I mean it doesn't lead to/is not a short cut to anywhere (afaik) and the line up's not really aimed at me (still a Basil Brush fan mind).

 

The showers in the Kidzfield are open to everyone - that's the only reason I've ever been in there!  I don't remember them having an issue with childless people but it's been a few years since I've used those ones. 

[MilkyJoe]

We had kids in tow in 2013 and at times I had left the field to be elsewhere. On returning sometimes I was stopped at the entrance and had to explain that I had family in there and sometimes I wasn't. Just seemed to be whoever was manning the entrance at the time.

[Quark]

11 hours ago, giantkatestacks said:

That's been the case for some time and is just all adults without kids with them.  They dont want us drunkenly climbing all over the ship and mowing down 5 year olds. Which is fair.

 

They'll learn to dodge better.  Life lessons for them.

[incident]

4 minutes ago, stuie said:

The showers in the Kidzfield are open to everyone - that's the only reason I've ever been in there!  I don't remember them having an issue with childless people but it's been a few years since I've used those ones. 

 

Those showers are across from the entrance, rather than inside the designated (and enclosed) area for the Kidz Field itself.

[stuie]

10 minutes ago, incident said:

Those showers are across from the entrance, rather than inside the designated (and enclosed) area for the Kidz Field itself.

 

Yeah, it's been a few years as we have good showers in Oxfield but I do seem to remember watching performers while waiting in a long queue!

[CharlotteB]

There's a heavy steward presence at the entrances, which makes it look like there are no childless people allowed, but I've never seen anyone actually stopped. Obviously, there are a lot of adults going in there on their own to join up with other family members, so it'd be impossible to police.

[ClementsMike]

I was stopped and asked when going into the Kids Field to meet my family. Seemed reasonable, although it was clearly just a process/duty of care thing.

[DeanoL]

On 9/30/2024 at 3:16 PM, stuie said:

 

Sorry, but I think that's bollocks.  There's an epidemic of race crime out there but we don't take the default position that everyone is racist... we don't treat every adult as if they are a pedophile, just in case. 

 

Speak to your black friends. You'll find many get through life by assuming every white person is a racist until they prove otherwise. Similarly we absolutely do tell kids to treat every adult they don't know as a pedophile just in case. Why do you think we tell them not to talk to strangers?

 

On 9/30/2024 at 3:26 PM, Mardy said:

 

 

Absolutely superb stuff, there's loads of great initiatives, my main point is I've no patience with some men going on twitter moaning about any of this 'unfair treatment' and complaining that their feelings have been hurt.

But the attitude that people should just shut up and not talk about how something made them feel is also how we get here. I would find that interaction quite uncomfortable, and as someone who finds existing quiet uncomfortable at the best of times, then yeah I'd probably post something about it on the internet after. And then after thinking about it go "Actually, yeah if it stops sexual assaults at gigs it's probably worth it. I'll just stop going to gigs. Don't want to be a bother."

 

There's a growing problem we are starting to see in society where the reasonable adjustments we need to make for the benefit of some are going to directly impact on the ones we need to make for others. I'm massively anxious around dogs, following some bad experiences as a kid. As such, I don't tend to go to parks, and I'll generally prefer dog-free restaurants and cafes where possible. Sometimes, in a dog-free restaurant or cafe, a blind person comes in with a guide dog. That makes me uncomfortable. But that's fine. They've got it far worse than me, I'll happily trade my increased anxiety for their ability to get around. Obviously.

But now we're starting to see mental-health assistance dogs which are now being used to help people with anxiety. And are allowed to be in dog-free spaces. So whose anxiety wins? I really don't know. And I'm certainly not saying "mine should win". Maybe I should just stay at home. I really don't know. But there's some difficult questions ahead which we're barrelling headlong into without really understanding it.