What's changed?

[Gnomicide]

12 minutes ago, Quark said:

Trying to remember when they introduced the one way system into the SE Corner at night. Was that there in 2013?

Yep. 1st introduced that year.

 

[MilkyJoe]

2 hours ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I didn't go last year, but here are all the more specific changes I can think of other than the vibe or drugs:

 

* Arcadia has moved to near the bottom entrance to The Park. It's also now a dragonfly rather than a spider.

* There's a Co-op now, near the Other Stage. It doesn't sell alcohol.

* The Other Stage is now massive.

* Various sound system upgrades, most notably repeaters in W Holts and Other.

* A new area has opened up called The Woods. It's basically just some woodland with decorations in the trees.  Sometimes there's a bar/food stall in there. And I think there's a treehouse or some walkways up there, but nothing major. It's very chill.

*John Peel Tent moved out, to a new field near The Woods and was renamed to Woodsies. There's also a tent in that field called Tree Stage, but I've not been to it, since it was only introduced last year.

* As mentioned, Silver Hayes has completely changed. It's much better. The markets on that side of the festival have been rejigged several times and you'll potentially get a bit lost in that part.

* The Beat Hotel is gone, but replaced with a similar venue in much the same area.

* Block 9 has two fields, one of which contains a _huge_ head that has lasers and projections fired at it.  Photos don't do its scale justice.

* The Temple is much bigger, but is probably harder to get into because of the aforementioned crowd size increases.

* The portaloos are all gone, replaced with more long drops and compost toilets.

* Various things have gone from the Green Fields, such as Fluffy Rock Cafe, Manic Organic and the tent that showed some arty films that I can't remember.

* The Glade area has had several changes over the years, but is currently a massive tent, not under the trees, called "The Glade", a smaller, open air venue under the trees called "Glade Done" and a walkway, bar and viewing platform for the tent, called Spike (I think it also has some DJ sets on in there, but nothing big)

* Williams Green as a venue is gone, replaced by a carhenge sculpture 

* There's a pier now called Glastonbury On Sea.

* Single use plastic cannot be bought on site, resulting in a really quite dramatic improvement in litter levels.

 

 

I'm sure there's more!

RIP Manic Organic.😢 Was always my favourite place to eat.

[stuartbert two hats]

4 hours ago, Someoni said:

They'd better not get rid of the long drops

 

The long drops have a larger capacity, so many of them don't need to be emptied during the festival (at least, not as often)

[CharlotteB]

7 hours ago, Another eforum account said:

Not as many Abby sh*t suckers either (though can’t remember exactly what year the composting loos really started populating the site). On the flip side compost loos are generally a load nicer than the portaloo turdists of the past. 

 

Yeah, they seem to be, as long as the sawdust supply is plentiful.

[CleanShirt]

As well as the things already mentioned - changing drug use, vibe and changes to the areas; another one for me is the fact that people don't hang around their camps anymore. Used to part of the fun getting to know neighbours etc but people now usually seem to prefer milling around the main areas including on Weds/ Thurs... probably a reflection of more happening in the run up to the main stages opening and late at night and the change in vibe generally ie its a lot younger than it used to be. 

 

Also the absence of fires, in camps and also across the festival. I used to love the smell of fires. The festival still provide fire wood, but by Saturday there was still a big pile on the old railway track this year where that would've been gone by midday on the Wednesday 10 years ago. Though the glade have a fire going by the main tent - with a big fence around it.

 

 

[Someoni]

10 minutes ago, CleanShirt said:

As well as the things already mentioned - changing drug use, vibe and changes to the areas; another one for me is the fact that people don't hang around their camps anymore. Used to part of the fun getting to know neighbours etc but people now usually seem to prefer milling around the main areas including on Weds/ Thurs... probably a reflection of more happening in the run up to the main stages opening and late at night and the change in vibe generally ie its a lot younger than it used to be. 

 

Also the absence of fires, in camps and also across the festival. I used to love the smell of fires. The festival still provide fire wood, but by Saturday there was still a big pile on the old railway track this year where that would've been gone by midday on the Wednesday 10 years ago. Though the glade have a fire going by the main tent - with a big fence around it.

 

 

We will be having a nice little fire by our camper the evenings we are back there at a early enough time with the little man

[stuie]

Just stole this from Glasto chat to help explain what’s changed! 
 

[Titters]

9 hours ago, Gnomicide said:

Yep. 1st introduced that year.

 

 

I thought there was one in 2011? And it was miles.... 

 

 

 

[CleanShirt]

1 hour ago, Titters said:

 

I thought there was one in 2011? And it was miles.... 

 

 

 

 

You're right! It was literally a sobering experience doing that trek.. Checking back at the 2011 map, it followed the perimeter fence down from PG C!!

[Gnomicide]

Was it on a later map, or am I missing something?

 

[Titters]

3 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

Was it on a later map, or am I missing something?

 

 

 

It was so long, this map has cut off the info. 

 

The map on Glastopedia has it on their version of the 2011 map, so maybe be was a late addition. 

 

[Gnomicide]

1 hour ago, Titters said:

 

 

It was so long, this map has cut off the info. 

 

The map on Glastopedia has it on their version of the 2011 map, so maybe be was a late addition. 

 

 

Ah. Cheers.

[t0paz]

11 hours ago, Someoni said:

We will be having a nice little fire by our camper the evenings we are back there at a early enough time with the little man

Unfortunately that’s not allowed in the camper fields. This is buried in the Ts&Cs

’Open fires are not permitted. Small barbecues can be used in these fields, but they must be at least 3m away from any vehicle and must be on stand or off the ground.’

[Someoni]

39 minutes ago, t0paz said:

Unfortunately that’s not allowed in the camper fields. This is buried in the Ts&Cs

’Open fires are not permitted. Small barbecues can be used in these fields, but they must be at least 3m away from any vehicle and must be on stand or off the ground.’

That's what we use, a small metal domed bbq which is raised off the ground 

[upstream]

I've done every one since 2007. only changes that I have really notices are - the smell of weed has gone , balloons of Noz were a thing that has mostly come and gone.  It feels more crowded, people seem less kind, everyone seems only interested in making content as opposed to actually being in the moment and making memories. Avalon is a shadow of what it used to be, noone has a campfire anymore - that haze that used to be over the festival at dawn is hardly ever there anymore. A lot more glamping and more hospitallity people. Yes  food and drink a little more expensive but thats life - it is everywhere else too. some stuff has gone some has moved and there are some new things its a constant (slow ) evolution there is more and better support for people with Mental health issues

 

[Woz101]

I do a big gallery each year I go, not just focussing on the bands...might give an idea of what's new: 

https://dvfwoz.myportfolio.com/work

[Skip997]

2 hours ago, upstream said:

feels more crowded, people seem less kind, everyone seems only interested in making content as opposed to actually being in the moment and making memories.

 

Spot on, exactly what I’m seeing.

 

Not that’ll make a difference of course, but I’ll keep “banging the drum”. They really should significantly reduce numbers on site. 
 

And another thing, a lack of spontaneous creativity, more just waiting to be entertained, less getting involved.

[Justcalledtosay]

2 hours ago, upstream said:

I've done every one since 2007. only changes that I have really notices are - the smell of weed has gone , balloons of Noz were a thing that has mostly come and gone.  It feels more crowded, people seem less kind, everyone seems only interested in making content as opposed to actually being in the moment and making memories. Avalon is a shadow of what it used to be, noone has a campfire anymore - that haze that used to be over the festival at dawn is hardly ever there anymore. A lot more glamping and more hospitallity people. Yes  food and drink a little more expensive but thats life - it is everywhere else too. some stuff has gone some has moved and there are some new things its a constant (slow ) evolution there is more and better support for people with Mental health issues

 

f**king hell. I wish you'd posted that before ticket sales to put more people off.

[Justcalledtosay]

2 hours ago, Woz101 said:

I do a big gallery each year I go, not just focussing on the bands...might give an idea of what's new: 

https://dvfwoz.myportfolio.com/work

Great photos. I had to stop looking through them as i started getting depressed about not getting tickets 😞

[Rose-Colored Boy]

7 hours ago, Woz101 said:

I do a big gallery each year I go, not just focussing on the bands...might give an idea of what's new: 

https://dvfwoz.myportfolio.com/work

These are great, thank you for sharing!! Will rep when I have some available. 

[The other Bellboy]

On 11/24/2024 at 11:13 PM, Gnomicide said:

Yep. 1st introduced that year.

 

Sorry, it was there in 2011 for sure, I remember part of the group joining the queue on the Sunday night, I didn't go in 2013 and was only with some of that group in 2011.

[Gnomicide]

7 hours ago, The other Bellboy said:

Sorry, it was there in 2011 for sure, I remember part of the group joining the queue on the Sunday night, I didn't go in 2013 and was only with some of that group in 2011.

 

Don't be sorry, you are correct, someone else further up mentioned it. Turns out an updated version of the 2011 map was issued that included it.