How I would fix the ticket system

[MilkyJoe]

44 minutes ago, The other Bellboy said:

I can never understand why people say that removing the deposit will stop people being able to afford to go, the amount of money paid is the same either way, and after the deposit (which is less than 25% of the cost), you have to pay the rest in one go, not in a number of small amounts. Its all about planning. Its the same amount of money out of your yearly income whenever you have to pay it. I just don't get it.

I think it's more that it's the run up to christmas and funds are probably pretty tight for some people. Still don't think it would make much difference to the majority though, they would just budget differently is all.

[gooner1990]

1 hour ago, The other Bellboy said:

I can never understand why people say that removing the deposit will stop people being able to afford to go, the amount of money paid is the same either way, and after the deposit (which is less than 25% of the cost), you have to pay the rest in one go, not in a number of small amounts. Its all about planning. Its the same amount of money out of your yearly income whenever you have to pay it. I just don't get it.

 

Agree 100%!

[Alvoram]

How would having no deposit scheme help exactly? 

[danmarks]

3 hours ago, The other Bellboy said:

I can never understand why people say that removing the deposit will stop people being able to afford to go, the amount of money paid is the same either way, and after the deposit (which is less than 25% of the cost), you have to pay the rest in one go, not in a number of small amounts. Its all about planning. Its the same amount of money out of your yearly income whenever you have to pay it. I just don't get it.

Tickets go on sale November.  5 months since last festival. December and the xmas nonsense still takes up funds for many people- if you are pulling out multiples of 400 in November then that's a massive hit. If it's multiples of 75 people can mitigate it a bit then go full in between jan -April to save the rest.

Some people live pay day to pay day and although on paper it should be one pot - reality is for many life gets in the way and glastonbury Tickets are not priority at that moment in time. A few extra months of wriggle room cab make a massive difference.

Also wasn't it something to do with vat/tax years to split payments?

[ehg]

On 11/20/2024 at 12:11 PM, stuie said:

 

It is a freak wonder of the UK licencing system and a product of years of negotiations that we have a 1 week Glastonbury festival.  There is absolutely no way permission would be given for 2 weeks.  

Right, when I say "insane and probably unfeasible" I also mean "would involve licensing reform at a national level."
 
It is also - though this is obviously a completely separate point - a freak wonder of the licensing system that massive global events and the cultural fabric of the UK exist entirely at the mercy of local councillors elected in most cases by about 5 people. 

[ehg]

On 11/20/2024 at 4:21 PM, gfa said:

This would be a huge amount of admin for literally no benefit

 

(the second bit in italics is good but doesn't require the admin of the first to be effective surely)

The idea is that if you have to enter a registration number to get your place in the queue, then people will game the system by registering multiple times. Scrubbing registrations every year means you'd have to constantly repeat that process, rather than just racking up 30 different registration numbers and using them in perpetuity.

From a consumer point of view, I log in every year ahead of the registration deadline to triple-check my details, so I don't think the burden of re-registering annually would be that onerous. Might also weed out the less attentive / committed people.

[Leyrulion]

4 hours ago, The other Bellboy said:

I can never understand why people say that removing the deposit will stop people being able to afford to go, the amount of money paid is the same either way, and after the deposit (which is less than 25% of the cost), you have to pay the rest in one go, not in a number of small amounts. Its all about planning. Its the same amount of money out of your yearly income whenever you have to pay it. I just don't get it.

 

It's the difference in mindset when saving £375 for something that might happen as opposed to something that definitely is happening when you have a deposit. 

 

I save £60 a month all year round for my festivals, but I realise I'm in a minority!

 

[gooner1990]

55 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

 

It's the difference in mindset when saving £375 for something that might happen as opposed to something that definitely is happening when you have a deposit. 

 

I save £60 a month all year round for my festivals, but I realise I'm in a minority!

 

 

Another way of doing it could be at payment could be 'full amount up front' or '6 equal payments of £x'

 

Would weed out the half arsed triers, and if people would still have the cancellation option further down the line if they couldn't go.

[DeanoL]

22 hours ago, Leyrulion said:

 

It's the difference in mindset when saving £375 for something that might happen as opposed to something that definitely is happening when you have a deposit. 

 

I save £60 a month all year round for my festivals, but I realise I'm in a minority!

 

I'm not sure you are. With the cost of gig tickets these days and them being announced a few days in advance then selling out immediately, I'd almost say you have to have some sort of system for putting money away for them unless you earn loads.

[philipsteak]

23 hours ago, ehg said:

Right, when I say "insane and probably unfeasible" I also mean "would involve licensing reform at a national level."
 
It is also - though this is obviously a completely separate point - a freak wonder of the licensing system that massive global events and the cultural fabric of the UK exist entirely at the mercy of local councillors elected in most cases by about 5 people. 

 

Item 1 on the agenda, can one of the biggest cultural events on the planet go ahead? 

 

Item 2, we need more dog mess bins on the high street.