WWE

[Uncle Liam]

UFC do it regular and their business is just going up and up

[Uncle Liam]

ENGLAND FANS GET SOME GREAT NEWS - TNA ANNOUNCES RETURN TOUR OF THE UK IN JANUARY!

In recent days, TNA management promised some big news for our loyal fans in England, and TNA President Dixie Carter delivered it personally during Saturday's sold-out show in Coventry!

TNA Wrestling will return to the U.K. for four shows in January, 2009, Carter announced during the live event. The 2009 shows will headline the "Maximum iMPACT! Tour." The itinerary is:

Tuesday, January 20 - Manchester, England - Manchester Evening News Arena

Wednesday, January 21 - Birmingham, England - National Indoor Arena

Thursday, January 22 - Glasgow, Scotland - Braehead Arena

Saturday, January 24 - London, England - Wembley Arena

Tickets go on sale on Friday, June 27 at 9 A.M.

The tour will be promoted by John Cornwell of SJM Concerts.

"The reception TNA Wrestling received this week from the U.K. fans has been nothing short of incredible and we look forward to returning in January," Carter said.

Keep checking www.tnawrestling.com for more details on the January 2009 U.K. tour.

What a f**king joke!

[funkymp]

^ whys it a joke ?

just got back from the brentwood show - it was f**king superb, definately better than the raw i saw out in toronto,canada. will be at wembley without a doubt

hernandez from lax is the man

[Uncle Liam]

Erm...

The MEN should hold 18000 for that event.

Wembley arena will hold about 120000.

NIA will hold 10000.

Lots of empty seats. (not that thats anything new).

Expensive to hire out these arenas, so they're going to lose money unless they sell quite a lot of tickets. Which i dont think they will.

[funkymp]

Erm...

The MEN should hold 18000 for that event.

Wembley arena will hold about 120000.

NIA will hold 10000.

Lots of empty seats. (not that thats anything new).

Expensive to hire out these arenas, so they're going to lose money unless they sell quite a lot of tickets. Which i dont think they will.

[Uncle Liam]

I bet you a tenner they wont. Each arena, 50% full. Tops.

Who they going to market it to? Seriously, who watches the show, and then enjoys it enough to splash out the money to go and watch it?

Who are all the kids going to want to go and see? They're all going to go watch WWE.

Yes, TNA, has some hardcore fans, but hell, ECW had the most hardcore fans of all time and look what happenned there. and people were still tuning into WCW at the end... And people are still watching Raw for some reason.

[luckysalt]

You're always so down on TNA, they will sell, TNA is growing bigger each week, I expect bravo to push it big now they've lost UFC

and the wembley date wont be the 120,000, thats the stadium, the arena is the same size as the rest of the tour

im gunna go birmingham date for sure

[luckysalt]

just realised I have the 27th june off work, quality I can get good seats hopefully

[Halcyon]

I'll probably attend the Wembly date, although I'm at Glastonbury on the 27th so will have to get a mate to buy them.

[funkymp]

You're always so down on TNA, they will sell, TNA is growing bigger each week, I expect bravo to push it big now they've lost UFC

and the wembley date wont be the 120,000, thats the stadium, the arena is the same size as the rest of the tour

im gunna go birmingham date for sure

[Halcyon]

Raw Main Event tonight: Cena vs Umanga Streetfight.

Predicted winner: Triple H's Sledgehammer

Edited June 16, 2008 by Halcyon

[Uncle Liam]

Raw Main Event tonight: Cena vs Umanga Streetfight.

Predicted winner: Triple H's Sledgehammer

[luckysalt]

Raw didn't sound too bad and am I mad or are they pushing Lance Cade?

A HHH v Jericho main event can't be bad, Its not been booked like WM18 FFS

[luckysalt]

6 DAYS UNTIL THE DRAFT

LETS TALK DRAFT

heres Vince when questioned on the draft

''We don't do that necessarily every year, but I think we will in the future. It shakes things up. It refreshens the product and we have some major moves planned. It's a good thing. I think everyone looks forward to that because you don't know where the superstars or your favorite ones are going or which ones are coming, which issues are resolved, which ones are left open, so it's an exciting show.''

So major moves... John Cena to Smackdown? Batista to Raw? Edge to Raw? Undertaker to follow him to Raw on his return? Shawn Michales to Smackdown? HHH to Smackdown?

Those are the major moves IMO

Jericho is staying on Raw, its in his contract apparently

Umaga is going Smackdown, Vince has already said he's moving brands in the shareholders meeting a month ago, and surely they wouldn't move him to ECW

[Halcyon]

Don't forget, ECW is now being taped before Raw, so the trade of tallent between ECW and Smackdown will stop. Therefore, I'm expecting a whole bunch of trades between ECW and smackdown behind the scenes. I'd say the main trades (mostly between Raw and Smackdown) will be:

To Smackdown

Punk

Umanga

Jeff Hardy (and will soon take back his MitB case to eventually set up an awesome Edge vs Hardy feud)

Santino

To Raw

MVP

Taker

Batista

a woman or two... Kelly Kelly or McCool

Carlito will disappear never to be seen again. There's not a cats chance in hell HHH or Cena are moving to the B show - that would be the very definition of no buys.

Edited June 17, 2008 by Halcyon

[Uncle Liam]

6 DAYS UNTIL THE DRAFT

LETS TALK DRAFT

heres Vince when questioned on the draft

''We don't do that necessarily every year, but I think we will in the future. It shakes things up. It refreshens the product and we have some major moves planned. It's a good thing. I think everyone looks forward to that because you don't know where the superstars or your favorite ones are going or which ones are coming, which issues are resolved, which ones are left open, so it's an exciting show.''

So major moves... John Cena to Smackdown? Batista to Raw? Edge to Raw? Undertaker to follow him to Raw on his return? Shawn Michales to Smackdown? HHH to Smackdown?

Those are the major moves IMO

Jericho is staying on Raw, its in his contract apparently

Umaga is going Smackdown, Vince has already said he's moving brands in the shareholders meeting a month ago, and surely they wouldn't move him to ECW

[luckysalt]

Khali?

I dunno, he has a pretty good spot on smackdown and I don't think he would mantain that spot on Raw, and they want him in a good spot cus he's so important for overseas

Burke & Punk will move I think

If Carlito is staying he should move

Shelton needs to move or get pushed on ECW

I can see Batista and Jeff Hardy switching as the big faces

[luckysalt]

Apparently theres a new Raw GM this monday

someone from Smackdown or ECW?

Astrada? I hope so

[Uncle Liam]

Not that the draft means anything these days. Big Show for instance, is apparently a Smackdown guy, whose first feud back was on both shows, and is now fighting for the ECW Championship.

You know, despite the death of Eddy Guerrero, and Bobby lashley being involved, the Raw v Smackdown feud of late 2005 was so brilliant. If they did that now it would mean shit.

[rossmac1987]

i know im going to be disapointed by the draft.

what i want to happen

To Raw;

John Morrison

The Miz

Batista

MVP

Estrada (new gm + fued with regal on his return)

Mike Adamle

Elijah Burke

Matt Hardy

Edge (with title)

To Ecw;

Big Show

The Highlanders

Super Crazy

Jamie Nobel

Jimmy Wang Yang

Shannon Moore

Jerry Lawler

Rey Mysterio

Funaki

Paul London

Brian Kendrick

Mark Henry

Khali

Mick Foley

Hopefully starting some form of cruiserwieght divison on ECW

To Smackdow;

Carlito

John Cena (Arrive with title after beating hhh at NOC)

Cryme Time

Santino

Umaga

Cm Punk

Chavo

Bam Neely

Tazz

Jerico

I know this is to many picks but it would be a great way to properly shake everything up and would be a bit surprising.

My N.O.C predictions are;

WWE Champion - Triple H vs. John Cena - Cena

World Heavyweight Champion - Edge vs Batista - Edge

ECW Champion - Kane vs. Big Show - Kane

World Tag Team Championship Match - Hardcore Holly & Cody Rodes vs. Ted jr and ??? - Ted Jr and ??? (cody heel turn)

WWE Tag Team Champions John Morrison & The Miz vs. Finlay & Hornswoggle - Finlay and Hornswoggle (please god no)

United States Champion Matt Hardy vs. Chavo Guerrero - Chavo

WWE Women's Champion Mickie James vs. Katie Lea Burchill (WWE Women's Championship Match) - Katie Lea

[Halcyon]

^ an big fan of title changes I see... it's a night where all the champions fight, not where most of the champions loose..

HHH over Cena

Edge over Batista

Kane over Big Show (this is the one I'm least confident about)

Ted Jr & DH Smith over Holly & Rhodes (Rhodes turns heel on Holly)

M&M over Finlay & Hornswaggle

Hardy over Chavo

James over Katie

[rossmac1987]

^ an big fan of title changes I see... it's a night where all the champions fight, not where most of the champions loose..

[rossmac1987]

double post woops

Edited June 19, 2008 by rossmac1987

[luckysalt]

You're missing two matches off the NOC card

IC Title - Jericho v Shawn Michales

Divas Title - Natalya v TBA

I think your draft picks are pretty good ross, and would love Jerry Lawler and JR to be split up but would rather have Foley on raw than Mik Adamle

No way in hell will Rey Mysterio ever be put on ECW

same goes for Great Khali they're both too important in the markets [spanish & asian]

I too want a cruiserweight division on ECW as Ive posted in the past

[luckysalt]

JR says there WILL be main event names moving in the draft on Monday

So who do we think Batista to Raw, I would say move Rey Mysterio to Raw but because of Smackdowns high value in spanish areas they've not done this in the past, I feel they need to gamble and do this now though, Rey has been on Smackdown for what 7 years? time to move him definatly IMO

But who goes to Smackdown who is main event? thats the question?

IMO, HHH should go, hes been on RAW forever, move him to Smackdown and if he's that much of a draw and a star like he thinks he is, he shouldn't mind, a HHH - Edge fued on Smackdown after the Taker fued has finished would be great

Maybe JBL to Smackdown, he just is not working on Raw at all

Keep Cena on Raw, fued with Hardy, Mysterio, Batista, and the long awaited return fued with Jericho

maybe its time for Cena to turn heel though, hes VERY stale right now, would be a good way for him to get the strap off a leaving HHH