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TNA was brutal.

WHY OH WHY OH f**kING WHY are they having Kurt Angle do UNFUNNY comedy segments? Send the man home to get better so he can wrestle again.

Basically, usual TNA bullshit. Great Wrestling, interrupted by commercials and filed with absolsutely stupid, unfunny, nto entertaining in the slightest nonsenical segments.

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Yup 1993, Lugar had his bullshit countout victory over Yokozuna in one of the worse main events ever, I like that song though and the Lex Express it wasn't that bad, just Lugar and Yokozuna aren't exactly the best wrestlers

I remember that Summerslam also had Bret Hart v Jerry Lawler but Lawler wouldn't wrestle and made his court jester Doink fight Bret instead in a damn good match! then Lawler attacked Bret afterwards and they then had a match but Bret lost via DQ after he wouldn't let go of the sharpshooter

Also Steiners v Heavenly Bodies = quality tag titles match

Mr Perfect v Shawn Michales for the IC title, didn't that end in a DQ too?

Can't remember anything else from the PPV though, think Crush was on it as a face, oh oh oh I do remember Marty Janetty v Ludvig Borga, Borga was badass, he lasted like 1 month though

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Yup 1993, Lugar had his bullshit countout victory over Yokozuna in one of the worse main events ever, I like that song though and the Lex Express it wasn't that bad, just Lugar and Yokozuna aren't exactly the best wrestlers

I remember that Summerslam also had Bret Hart v Jerry Lawler but Lawler wouldn't wrestle and made his court jester Doink fight Bret instead in a damn good match! then Lawler attacked Bret afterwards and they then had a match but Bret lost via DQ after he wouldn't let go of the sharpshooter

Also Steiners v Heavenly Bodies = quality tag titles match

Mr Perfect v Shawn Michales for the IC title, didn't that end in a DQ too?

Can't remember anything else from the PPV though, think Crush was on it as a face, oh oh oh I do remember Marty Janetty v Ludvig Borga, Borga was badass, he lasted like 1 month though

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Thats all from memory?

JESUS, some memory you have there

Yeah it was Dibiase's last match I remember that now,

shawn v perfect, pretty sure Diesel got threw out from ringside pretty much at the start of the match now that I think about it Im sure Shawn won with a roll up holding the tights, but I could be wrong

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Forgot to record Smackdown this week but watched the VIP segment with HHH and MVP on youtube which was hilarious.I love when HHH makes references to real life like his ''...marrying into power,that's smart'' comment and some of the stuff he did with DX about Steph and the baby's father.

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Thats all from memory?

JESUS, some memory you have there

Yeah it was Dibiase's last match I remember that now,

shawn v perfect, pretty sure Diesel got threw out from ringside pretty much at the start of the match now that I think about it Im sure Shawn won with a roll up holding the tights, but I could be wrong

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right would someone like to take a shot at what the hell is wrong with kane.

first thought was vince, then i thought undertaker now i have no idea.

raw was very average wrestling wise this week, but the promos were sweeeeet.

ctc cena and cryme time get ron killings and d'lo in that stable too.

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I have no idea, I thought Undertaker and Vince to start off but they aren't dead. Maybe another brother...or Paul Bearer :O

I agree, there was a severe lack of wrestling last night but the promos were great. Especially y2j & hbk leading up to the bash.

Burchill & Kofi should be goog rivalry as well, although Burchill's main move is awful! :O

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Killings is going to be on Smackdown ross, so thats that out the window

Kane going heel is definatly the best choice, make him into a real badass monster again, I notice James Mitchell has been released from TNA, Paul Bearer isn't fit enough to do the road anymore, bring in James Mitchell as Kanes manager!!!

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Gotta love WWE.

They do something like the draft because the whole thing is stale as f**k. So they give CM Punk the World Title then have him face Snitsky in the semi main event on Raw in a match where he gets beats on for most of the time.

Then in the main event, we have four of the same guys fighting it out. And Kane becomes a Psycho again.

So, for you good people of this thread, here are all the times in the past when Kane has become Psychotic.

1997- When he just came out on the basement

2000- when he turned heel omn Undertaker for no reason and had a feud with Jericho over spilt coffee

2002- Necrophilia- dont need to say anything else about that.

2003- When he unmasked and neat on RVD and killed The Undertaker again.

2006- The whole May 19th thing. Which is actually shockingly similar to whats going on now.

2008- "Is he alive or dead?!?!?!?!?!?" bullshit.

You know, anyone who says the greatest Kanen moment ISNT the contract signing with Chavo Guerrero earlier in the year doesnt know anything about Wrestling.

Anyway, I saw bits of Smackdown and it existed. I suppose some the Matt Hardy v Shelton match was good enough, as was the Finlay match (even with the midget) but apart from Vickie and Edge, everyone else is just well... shit.

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Best Kane moment was definatly his debut at Hell in the Cell, it was 11 months in the making and lived upto expections, Ive never seen a debut as good as it before or since

So from this weeks Raw Kane is now screaming im sorry and carrying around a bag which nobody knows what is inside it... hmm ok...

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Speaking of the above

here you go, this is awesome

The history of Kane's debut

its quite long 13 parts, about an hour, but its a good watch especially for the old school fans

Enjoy it, I did, reminds me how ace Paul Bearer is as well, hope he does come back with Kane

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that was immense. Cheers for those videos salty... that really is the way to build up an entrance. If only wwe were still prepared to do slow builds like this.

Oh, and I'd love it if Vince had amnesia from his 'accident' the other week, came back thinking it was 1998 again, and gets back on commentary. That would be many many buys.

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Interesting theory going around the net is that Kane is saying is he alive or dead about himself and the monster that he was, and that inside the bag is his mask, he will start wearing it again and become the Kane of old, which is just freaking awesome if true

Meanwhile... the Full Great American Bash card which is this Sunday

WWE Championship Match

- Triple H © vs. Edge

WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match

- CM Punk © vs. Batista

- Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho

ECW Championship Match

- Mark Henry © vs. Tommy Dreamer

NYC Parking Lot Brawl

- JBL vs. John Cena

WWE World Tag Team Championship

- The Miz & John Morrison vs. Finlay & Hornswoggle vs. Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder vs Jesse & Festus

WWE Divas Championship Match

- Natalya vs. Michelle McCool

Predictions please

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