singles thread

[worm]

That's because girls are still not able to leer openly at male objects of desire without being labelled as sluts or maneaters.

Edited July 20, 2009 by worm

[Radar]

Is being single the only way to attain autonomy of desire and find a way out of this sickness? Do we find ourselves seeking purity when coming out of a failed relationship (realised fantasy/tragic narrative)?

[worm]

I'd suggest that most people have fantasies that conform to social conventions. These conventions have grown in popularity over time, however there are many more narratives now than ever before as a loss of "shame" leads to a growth in interest in fantasies which once would have been socially unacceptable.

[Radar]

Conservative narratives/fantasies given to us via television & film etc. I'd agree.

This doesn't answer the question though.

[worm]

Well I don't understand this autonomy of desire concern that you seem to have.

Edited July 20, 2009 by worm

[Radar]

I mean that we control our desire so that it does not try to realise a fantasy. Rather, it keeps fantasy as fantasy and reality as reality. The ethos drive (the will to eliminate stimuli) containing the thanatos drive (the will to indulge extreme stimuli).

You see, I'm wondering if we'd have control of our desires if we didn't project our fantasies onto a real person. I'm also wondering if single people are ethos inclined after suffering such a delusion of fantasy. Or in the case of females, such a tragic end to their narrative.

[worm]

So you are thinking of illegal fantasies.

Edited July 20, 2009 by worm

[sifi]

Yes. The word narrative combined with the suffix ise. Similar to fictionalise, but as everything is a fiction that would have been a redundant thing to say wouldn't it.

[feral chile]

What's the difference between narrate and narrativise?

[worm]

Is it that one is to tell a story and the other is to turn something into a story?

Edited July 20, 2009 by worm

[greenfairy43]

So, did anyone get any this weekend?

[feral chile]

They can psychologically. I'm not talking socially.

This raises the question, can women fantasise without a narrative? Or is it through male fantasy that women have a sexuality? Similarly, is male fantasy such a fearful factor to men that they must conform to the female narrative?

Is being single the only way to attain autonomy of desire and find a way out of this sickness? Do we find ourselves seeking purity when coming out of a failed relationship (realised fantasy/tragic narrative)?

[funkymunkey]

So, did anyone get any this weekend?

[Glitter+Vodka]

My brother's seeing someone from Bolton. Might be the same guy.

[Lithium05]

So, did anyone get any this weekend?

[worm]

Not sure what you mean there.

[feral chile]

Does their fantasy involve an object of desire, to which they apply their own subjectivity; their own fiction based upon their ego (man as object). Or do they create a narrative based upon themselves to which man is a central character; an antagonist.

Edited July 21, 2009 by feral chile

[worm]

Are you asking if men fantasize about what they'd do to their object of desire, and women fantasize about what would be done to them?

Edited July 21, 2009 by worm

[Millsy2008]

anything interesting been happenin, no been on for age!!!! just don't have time in the new job ken!

just have to say TITP was the best weekend of my life eva and im issues with picking the wrong guys are still the same however.......IBEEFA on saturday i can not and i mean can not wait!

[Millsy2008]

No. I'm saying that men fantasise about an object of desire i.e. what she looks like, what she wants, what her passions are, what her character is. So men project their subjectivity as a fantasy thereby denying a women's own (real) subjectivity (hence dream women in magazines etc). Whereas women narrativise themselves as an object of desire thereby giving the entire scenario subjectivity (hence romanticism and the ideal of the caring lover). We always fantasise about ourselves; men and women.

Women do not have their own subjectivity, mainly due to andocentrism and patriarchal culture. Partially, due to a difference in psyche.

[worm]

in fact scrap what i just said.....i see i have missed nothing really

[Millsy2008]

There's plenty of flirty talk if you go a bit further back. I only posted for the first time in about a month yesterday. It won't be too hard to find.

[Matticus]

matticus is now single. let the games begin

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matticus is now single. let the games begin

[Matticus]

Oh HAII