Chocscoffer Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I do agree with teddy that this is a pointless thread, for one reason because we had one just like it about a week ago, and also because I dont see why there is a segregation thing to it? Yes there will be other gays there, probably a few straight people, perhaps some africans, maybe some chinese, if your lucky some indians, lets go crazy and suggest there might be some south americans there as well. Hell, I think it will be one big mix of all sorts of people! What a crazy thought! Anyway, in a 'lighter' reply, I seem to remember that there actually is a gay bar this year in trash city somewhere I think, or could be shangra la. Have a search around the official website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roiston Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hello Just been wondering will I be the only gay in the Glastonbury village ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I will hang out with anyone.....gays, blacks, pinks, yellows, whites, turnips....varity is the spice of life So I always find it strange when someone says....im gay and want to meet up with gay people or things to that extent....if gay is normal....why segragate ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendotz Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Sorry, but isn't this a bit of a daft question? Like saying "Are there any white people going?" or "Are there any men going"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocscoffer Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I will hang out with anyone.....gays, blacks, pinks, yellows, whites, turnips....varity is the spice of life So I always find it strange when someone says....im gay and want to meet up with gay people or things to that extent....if gay is normal....why segragate ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lillypip Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Sasababe...i didnt mean any offence by my response and i hope you didnt feel like i was attacking you. I was having a general rant and apologise if it caused any offence!! Have a fantabulous festival! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boover Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Again, nobody has mentioned segrgation . I didn't want to get deep about this but i'm getting pissed off with saying the same thing over and over again. This may come as a surprise to some people on here but a lot of gay/bisexual people feel ostracised by society, some people see gay and bisexuality as 'normal' and wouldn't bat an eyelid at two people of the same sexuality holding hands and possibly showing affection the street but for the rest of society it is not seen as normal. Heterosexuals don't have to constantly explain their sexuality and hide it away and often come across homophobia in every aspect of lilfe. So, in answer to your question about why a gay person would ask if any other gay people are going to Glastonbury is because it is felt like a safe place for a person to be who they are without having to hide who they are. If you are straight then society will see you as normal yet a lot of society sees gay and bisexual people as 'different' and are labelled as so. What would people say if two men were kissing on a primetime tv prgramme at tea-time? Now what would people say if a man and a woman kissed on the same show? Not everybody is as accepting of sexuality. The people on here attacking the original poster may want to ask themselves why they have a problem with individuals asking about meeting other gay people. If somebody wanted to start a thread on meeting black, white, ginger (yes that was one piss take comparison), asian, indian individuals etc then I would have no problem with that. I wouldn't specifically go onto that thread and slag them off for starting it which is what has happened here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdale Wolf Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocscoffer Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Yup Some people just feel better knowing there will be other gays around... some have had a real shit time in the 'normal' world and have only felt comfortable in gay clubs and within the gay scene. Fortunately Glastonbury is some where that everyone can feel comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Box City Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Not everybody is as accepting of sexuality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsybitsy Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Spot on It took a serious amount of constraint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmy Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Imagine the furore of a "straights only" camp, or a "straight night" at a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Again, nobody has mentioned segrgation . I didn't want to get deep about this but i'm getting pissed off with saying the same thing over and over again. This may come as a surprise to some people on here but a lot of gay/bisexual people feel ostracised by society, some people see gay and bisexuality as 'normal' and wouldn't bat an eyelid at two people of the same sexuality holding hands and possibly showing affection the street but for the rest of society it is not seen as normal. Heterosexuals don't have to constantly explain their sexuality and hide it away and often come across homophobia in every aspect of lilfe. So, in answer to your question about why a gay person would ask if any other gay people are going to Glastonbury is because it is felt like a safe place for a person to be who they are without having to hide who they are. If you are straight then society will see you as normal yet a lot of society sees gay and bisexual people as 'different' and are labelled as so. What would people say if two men were kissing on a primetime tv prgramme at tea-time? Now what would people say if a man and a woman kissed on the same show? Not everybody is as accepting of sexuality. The people on here attacking the original poster may want to ask themselves why they have a problem with individuals asking about meeting other gay people. If somebody wanted to start a thread on meeting black, white, ginger (yes that was one piss take comparison), asian, indian individuals etc then I would have no problem with that. I wouldn't specifically go onto that thread and slag them off for starting it which is what has happened here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 ...... But I would like the opportunity be able to meet other people who happen to be gay and love glasto, something I don't get the chance to do everyday and I don't see why so many people have an issue with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdusty surfer Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 i've not been bothered to read all this thread, i,m afraid. but may i just chip in that at glastonbury, EVERYONE'S welcome. there are so many beautifully bizzare folk there, you would really have to work at it to be considered odd. each to their own, i say. thank heavens we aren't all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pehaw Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) Im a christian but I dont see any benefit of meetin fellow chirstians at glasto.... Besides we would all walk around talking about how the pegans where wrong...ha ha ha...that was meant as a light hearted joke before i get strung up Edited May 31, 2008 by pehaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Which? The pagans were wrong or you're a christian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyparnell Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Thats like saying I would like to meet people who are straight and like glasto.....what the hell difference dose it make if they are gay, black, orange, bisexual or freaking greek..... I sorry I just dont get it... Im a christian but I dont see any benefit of meetin fellow chirstians at glasto.... Besides we would all walk around talking about how the pegans where wrong...ha ha ha...that was meant as a light hearted joke before i get strung up Love all...mix and and experience the world....its all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigstonmania Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 i think generally that the only people that think being gay is a big deal are gay people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsybitsy Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) You make out im attacking the guy and Im doing no such thing.... Im making a valid point that can be put to alot of minority groups...... I have a couple of gay friends who dont seek or hang out in closed circles.....they get on with there lives....with there partners like they where normal folk (which of course the are!). You say no one would bat an eye lid if an asian guy came on here saying he wants to meet up with fellow asians. I live in Oldham and I see the damage closed off communities bring.... Intergration and acception is the key....not living in closed circles.... Now please dont spin my posts again to make it look like I have an "issue" with gay people thank you.... Edited June 1, 2008 by itsybitsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtox Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 i think generally that the only people that think being gay is a big deal are gay people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocscoffer Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) You make out im attacking the guy and Im doing no such thing.... Im making a valid point that can be put to alot of minority groups...... I have a couple of gay friends who dont seek or hang out in closed circles.....they get on with there lives....with there partners like they where normal folk (which of course the are!). You say no one would bat an eye lid if an asian guy came on here saying he wants to meet up with fellow asians. I live in Oldham and I see the damage closed off communities bring.... Intergration and acception is the key....not living in closed circles.... Now please dont spin my posts again to make it look like I have an "issue" with gay people thank you.... Edited June 1, 2008 by Chocscoffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) oafc0000 I don't want to get into an argument with you, but I've just come across this thread which rather contradicts what you are saying ............ "A modern day christian is very different from christians in the past. You point to christians as preaching homophobia. Now its clear that christians belive being gay is not a good way to live your life but thats a millions miles from being a homophob and preaching hatred or dislike towards gay people. I was always taught by my vicar that while we disagree with the way they chosse to live there life they should still be loved. .........." (Don't know how to link posts, but I found it here /index.php?s=&showtopic=100998&view=findpost&p=2271167">http://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/index.p...t&p=2271167 ) In the least this is very patronising, being gay isn't a choice, being a christian is ! And although I am a staunch atheist I don't feel the need to jump on Christian related threads and comment, it doesn't interest me so therefore I ignore it. I suggest you do the same. Edited June 1, 2008 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) I am not putting spin on your posts but please read back what you have written. Where has anybody on this post wanted a seperate gay area or want to only socialise with other gay people? I don't want to get into a slanging match and I don't think you have an issue with gay people I just don't understand why some people on here feel the need to slag off the original poster for asking a straight forward question? You say your friends are very open and live normal lives. That is fantastic and I am very happy for them but for a lot of gay people can't live their llives like that due to a whole host of reasons. Glastonbury is a place open to everybody (as we all know) but maybe this is place where a normally private gay/bisexual people can relax without being attacked for their sexuality, where they possibly would be if they were in their home town. The original poster just wanted to know if any gay people were going, possibly with a view to meeting up. Whether that would be sexual or just a social. What is wrong with that? I don't know if the original poster meant social or sexual but why people feel the need to take the piss and say how stupid a thread title is is beyond me.If you look on the forums throughout this site there are people talking about hooking up with people at festivals and they are not verbally attacked. I agree wholeheartedly with you that segregation is a bad idea and nobody is asking for that. The Cider Bus meet is open to people on here to meet with other efestivals people, this site being the the connection between them, then that is where friendships are forged and you can socialise with people who love posting on this site and talking about festivals (irrespective of which festival they are going to). There is no difference between the invite to the cider bus meet and the question about meeting other gay people, one is about a festival website and one is about sexuality but in the end it is about meeting likeminded people and having the time of your life. Please don't think this post is an attack on you as an individual, at least you actually put some time and thought into your posts as opposed to the "this thread is stupid" flippant replies +1 As for gay people choosing to live like this, ask your friends if they chose to be gay and see what response you get . I suspect they may just tell you it is who they are and there was no choice in the matter whatsoever. You don't just get up one morning thinking that people of the same sex are physically and emotionally more attractive to you and you never want to go down the 'normal' route to finding love and happiness. It is not a phase and it is not a choice. You can't dictate who you want to be with and how you want to live your life, whether that is heterosexual, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual or, transgender. As a bit of an extreme example of not 'normal' love did anybody hear about the german woman who married a the berlin wall who she fell in love with and then cheated on it with a fence Edited June 1, 2008 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtox Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) I find alot of gay people want to seperate themselves.... aka I see no point or need for a gay village in Manchester!! The more gay people intergrate and dont hold themselves out as different the more acceptance will follow. I do think they are there own worse enimies at time. But as a post above shown.....there is no doubt people are doing nasty things to gay people just for being gay....which is evil in my opinion.... You are right though, he never said he wanted to segrate himself so fair enough. I was just making a more general point. Im sorry if I took your post the wrong way and Im happy that you understand my intentions and feelings are posative. Enjoy your day Edited June 1, 2008 by dtox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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