OASIS PLAYING GLASTONBURY?

[.jay.]

i love them, basic simple singalong drinking music to share with friends they're just good fun nothing more nothing less.

if they were a snack they would be Pringles

and as time goes by it's hard for bands to be original and not copy something that has come before, Oasis do this but at least they have the decency to admit as such and pay homage to those they take inspiration from and i can quite easily listen to the originators and the copycats and enjoy both.

Edited January 30, 2009 by .jay.

[Limpet]

Everyone I know who hates Oasis only hates them for pathetic reasons and can often be bracketed as following:

- Former grunge fans bitter that their music died when Kurt did. Oasis took over, kickstarted Britpop and they then saw their precious "lumberjack shirt rock" evolve into rubbish like The Offspring, Blink 182, Limp Biskit, Papa Roach, Stained, Creed, Nicklecack and Puddle of Mudd.

- Electro fans whose heads are only filled with beepy noises and drum beats.

- Indier than thou scenesters who will tell you that last years albums by M83, TV on the radio and Frightened Rabbit are the best music ever produced and that you don't know anything about music until you've owned all of Tom Waits' records or Alopecia by Wny?. They're wrong.

- Music critics who are just a bit embarrassed that they gave Be Here Now 5 stars so feel the need to make up for that.

- People who think Liam's a foul mouthed thug and Noel's an attention seeker (if people ask him of his opinion, of course he's going to reply!).

- Girls who like "R&B" music.

- Radiohead fans.

- Wannabe poets. Music isn't all about the lyrics you know!

They're always lambasted for their new material not being as good as Definitely Maybe. Well when Definitely Maybe is as close to perfection as anything of course they're going to fall short. Everyone likens them to the Beatles. Since when did the Beatles ever write a song like Slide Away, Cigarettes and Alcohol, Shock of the Lightning, Morning Glory, Importance of being Idle, Half a World Away etc. Also if you're going to slate them for not being as good another band, the Beatles is a pretty high benchmark for a band to be compared to - if not the highest! If they're rubbish why not say they're worse than the Fratellis or The View?

Of course their music is going to be roughly of the same ilk to their previous stuff. Doesn't stop everyone loving Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, Metallica, Portishead, Chemical Brothers, Beastie Boys, Billy Bragg, Madness etc. I can guarantee, if the Specials release a new album it'll be full of ska-ey trumpet songs but that'll no doubt go down as groundbreaking.

The fact is that Noel Gallagher is an extremely good songwriter and Oasis are an extremely good, popular, cross-generational band. Just because they're not reinventing the wheel or dismantling Tomytrons to make music it doesn't mean they're not.

End of rant.

Edited January 30, 2009 by Limpet

[strudders]

The fact is that Noel Gallagher is an extremely good songwriter and Oasis are an extremely good, popular, cross-generational band. Just because they're not reinventing the wheel or dismantling Tomytrons to make music it doesn't mean they're not.

End of rant.

[Monkismo]

I don't think referencing "Cigarettes and Alcohol" as being something that the Beatles would never write is a bad idea.

Given that it sounds almost exactly like a T-Rex song ....

And that's the point about Oasis. I'd rather listen to the originals, not the repackaged image-filled dross that Oasis regurgitate to their adoring fans like chicks waiting to be fed by their damn mothers.

I think sometime ago on here a conclusion was reached that Oasis music is a little bit like stabilisers on a kid's bike. It might be useful to start off with when people first starting listen to music, but most people outgrow them quite quickly. And look back on their songs in the same way as you might a nursery rhyme, with some affection but you'd really have to be pissed to dance to one.

[.jay.]

I think the reason Radiohead fans don't like Oasis is because they admire a band that made one of the best rock albums ever (The Bends) and then had the balls to try something completely different and experimental with their next two albums.

Oasis on the other hand have been churning out that same shite pub rock sing-along stuff for the past god knows how many years. They have never ventured out of the safety of that comfort zone and have therefore become very boring and predictable.

[Limpet]

speak for yourself not radiohead fans i love both Oasis and Radiohead and don't go in for all this musical snobbery at all it just demeans music imo,

i love how people fall for this whole "so and so fans hate whats their name" bullshit it's so childish.

i can quite easily listen to girls aloud and a have a laugh and singalong and then if the mood takes me go and have a good thrash about to the likes of mastodon,

I've never understood people who use music to form cliques and battle off against other cliques what a waste of time.

[Chazeboy]

In your Opinion.

Not mine.

Tastes vary and opinions do to. Criticism should able to be given without stating fact's when in truth they are a personal view. The sun shines, that is a fact, Noel Gallagher is an extremely good songwriter is an opinion. Fact.

[Monkismo]

You tell him Raffa. FACT!!!!

[Bradders]

I think sometime ago on here a conclusion was reached that Oasis music is a little bit like stabilisers on a kid's bike. It might be useful to start off with when people first starting listen to music, but most people outgrow them quite quickly. And look back on their songs in the same way as you might a nursery rhyme, with some affection but you'd really have to be pissed to dance to one.

[strudders]

You may not like his songs but you can't say Noel's a bad songwriter.

I can't stand Abba, Nirvana, Duran Duran or Depeche Mode but don't deny they wrote good songs. Because that is a FACT!!

Anyway, as someone pointed out, its more the snobbery that I don't like and a lot of people who don't like Oasis don't like them purely because of other motives than just not liking the music. Some people who don't listen to music at all don't like Oasis but can listen to the tripe that fills up Radio 1 schedules every day. Its the enemy of the likes of Scouting For Girls, Razorlight adn Basshunter that we, as music fans, should be uniting against!!

[eFestivals]

You may not like his songs but you can't say Noel's a bad songwriter.

Noel is a crap songwriter.

See I've said it, so it's a FACT.

[Chazeboy]

You may not like his songs but you can't say Noel's a bad songwriter.

I can't stand Abba, Nirvana, Duran Duran or Depeche Mode but don't deny they wrote good songs. Because that is a FACT!!

Anyway, as someone pointed out, its more the snobbery that I don't like and a lot of people who don't like Oasis don't like them purely because of other motives than just not liking the music. Some people who don't listen to music at all don't like Oasis but can listen to the tripe that fills up Radio 1 schedules every day. Its the enemy of the likes of Scouting For Girls, Razorlight adn Basshunter that we, as music fans, should be uniting against!!

Edited January 30, 2009 by Chazeboy

[Mardy]

'Slowly walking down the hall

faster than a cannonball'

what?

what?

Nonsense.

Now, I've no objection to a bit of nonsense, it's what makes the world go round, but don't be telling me he's a great songwriter

[strudders]

Noel is a crap songwriter.

See I've said it, so it's a FACT.

[TomfromStroud]

I wouldn't be surprised. I reckon Oasis playing under Bruce on Saturday then Blur on Sunday. That way noone really wins, and hence the "4th Headliner" nonsense.

I figure that Eavis would've been able to get them cheap after last year's b*tching about Jay-Z.

I.e. "Put your money where your mouth is" etc.

And I think that Blur and Oasis would probably be good press-wise for each other, and raise the profile of the festival in the press' eyes.

Let the Britpop revival commence.

Edited January 30, 2009 by TomfromStroud

[strudders]

'Slowly walking down the hall

faster than a cannonball'

what?

what?

Nonsense.

Now, I've no objection to a bit of nonsense, it's what makes the world go round, but don't be telling me he's a great songwriter

[Bradders]

'Slowly walking down the hall

faster than a cannonball'

where were you when we were getting high

what?

what?

Nonsense.

Now, I've no objection to a bit of nonsense, it's what makes the world go round, but don't be telling me he's a great songwriter

[Monkismo]

Why you quoting me?, if you look further back in this thread i like them, i was poking fun at Studders and anyone else who uses the word Fact! - after mr Benitez' list

Surely though its each to their own

[sifi]

Fair point about Cigs and Alc but all he did was take the riff and he didn't even know what it was when he first played it. Bonehead told him he couldn't use it cos its a T-Rex tune to which Noel replied "I don't care, I've never heard it before!"

[Kowalski]

I don't think Michael Eavis approves of cruelty to animals. He won't want to see them flogging a dead horse on the main stage again.

[blue&white]

Pile of crap - dodgy attitudes, couldn't give a monkeys about anyone bar themselves

[kinglewi]

Noel may not be the greatest lyricist in the world, but he knows how to write a bloody good rock song. i mean theres very few bands since oasis that have come out of Britain and have wrote songs like 'some might say' 'live forever' 'acquiese' and 'dont look back in anger' You can even listen to albums such as be here now, and think its a lot better than some of the rubbish that is out at the moment!

[tazzyb]

Think about it......

We're all 99.9999999% sure that the 3 last-on-stage headliners are NY, Bruce and Blur .....

.... BLUR!!!!!!......

Oasis play under another band when Blur are headlining? It'd never happen.

[dallas]

Noel may not be the greatest lyricist in the world, but he knows how to write a bloody good rock song. i mean theres very few bands since oasis that have come out of Britain and have wrote songs like 'some might say' 'live forever' 'acquiese' and 'dont look back in anger' You can even listen to albums such as be here now, and think its a lot better than some of the rubbish that is out at the moment!