For everyone that thinks Glasto should be 'younger'

[alframsey]

Is that what the people who complain about the 'oldies' want??? A festival of younger bands for younger people?

OK, I'm sure the Prodigy and Radiohead would be welcomed by most (including myself), and I'm sure that a lot of the bands from R/L will make an appearance at Glasto.

But seriously, are those the kind of names that people want at the very top of a Glasto bill? Particularly given that most of them have played both Glasto and R/L in the last few years.

Young Springsteen and Blur is looking like an absolutely stonking bunch of headliners, even if we don't have the Mac or a '4th headliner' to look forward to now.

[ralph250]

Yes I agree but age has loads to do with it. People tend to like styles that they are brought up with be it clothes, food, cars or music.

[robith]

Makes no difference to the act themselves who they have influenced. They still sound the way they do.

Young is what folk/country/blues type rock and Springsteen folk/'whisky' type rock? Neither are 'young' sounding and if they were they don't do it in a 'youthful' manner ie Seasick Steve. Lyrics have little to do with it either, it's the general 'feel' and sound of the act.

What I said makes little sense lol but I know what I mean! haha

[robith]

The point he is making is that there is no headline act relevant to the younger generations, there should be.

[Kyelo]

That's half of Young's back catalogue, the other is drone, sludgy rock, that influenced Nirvana.

But regardless, it appears to be pointless discussing it with you, as you seem to want to dismiss a band unless it sounds like they produced their music 5 minutes ago.

Out of interest, do you like The Strokes? Franz Ferdinand? White Stripes?

[sufcmatt]

Last Year Mr.Eavis "I Want The Festival To Appeal To Younger People"

This Year He has taken a seemingly entirley different approach!

Hopefully some younger acts & bands will be announced...

Glasto is amazing though and i said last year I would go no matter who headlined

but now i feel a little more doubtful. Hope some big & younger appealing

acts get announced soon! =]

[freehugs!]

I think everyone should let Eavis and his team decide what to do as its their festival.

You can either go or not go, simple as.

[trixnstuff]

Relevance is a matter of perception surely?

30 odd years into their careers, Bruce and Neil are headlining festivals?

Will the same become of The Killers, Snow Patrol and Kasabian?

I'm 24 and those two acts are far more relevant to me than those groups.

[sdaveak47]

OLD PEOPLE SUCK A BIG FAT ONE

LOGANS RUN HAD THE RIGHT IDEA

[robith]

Don't mind them, wouldn't pay to see any of them. I'm dismissing nothing, I'm arguing for a more balanced set of headliners. See below.....

Nothing wrong with wanting a more representative set of headliners is there? I have an eclectic music taste but can see why a lot of people are annoyed, just arguing their cause and how I feel it could be made better. I am not arguing for my personal tastes.

[robith]

Maybe they will, maybe they won't but you are not representative of 16-25 year olds. Bruce and Neil are doing this off the back of what they did decades ago. They could literally sell any old crap and people would buy it just because of the name. They certainly are not representative of the current music industry and styles(not saying its a good or bad thing)which most 16-25 year olds listen to. Nothing to do with perception, just fact.

[Kyelo]

I was just using those as examples of bands who don't sound new, but would be crawled all over by those asking for "younger" bands.

Why do the headliners have to be representative? This ain't a democracy.

The reason they don't announce the line up in advance is to a)stop people coming for just one band and b)they can get bands cheaper that way. So you know the odds when you buy a ticket. But then recently they've announced the headliners so if you don't like them, you can get your money back, which is more than fair. The festival doesn't have an obligation to anyone. It's a free market economy. You pay and go, or you don't.

I have found it weird how in recent years people seem to have an idea that festivals somehow have an obligation to provide them with the bands they want to see, rather than choosing the festival on the basis of which appeals to you most.

Also, I feel like a broken record here - this is 1% of the line up.

[trixnstuff]

I went to a party at my friend who has belatedly started at uni recently's house. A bunch of 18-19 year olds all dancing to Bruce's greatest hits.

I DJ at a club night I run in the West End, pretty much 18-25. Whenever I play Born to Run or Rocking In The Free World, people go nuts.

Nothing to do with perception. Just facts.

[ralph250]

All very valid, however the Pyramid Stage is the flagship for Glastonbury and should represent this. At the moment it just doens't look like it will be. The headliners will alienate a lot of people, rightly or wrongly.

[Bort]

Talented "oldies" like Neil Young > talentless "youngies" like The Killers and Turds of Leon.

[russycarps]

I went to a party at my friend who has belatedly started at uni recently's house. A bunch of 18-19 year olds all dancing to Bruce's greatest hits.

I DJ at a club night I run in the West End, pretty much 18-25. Whenever I play Born to Run or Rocking In The Free World, people go nuts.

Nothing to do with perception. Just facts.

[Chazeboy]

robith I admire your patience but I fear you are wasting your breath.

Fact is, BenchBuddah would rather have Snow Patrol headlining the friday night than neil young. You simply cannot argue with someone with that mentality.

And does anyone else find this "pick a band from these 3 pools" utterly depressing and formulaic? Who would want a festival that predictable and boring? The great thing about galstonbury is you never know what you are going to get from one year to the next. Michael Eavis picks the best bands available each year irrespective of age etc.

Next year may well be Arctic Monkeys, Muse, Killers. Then the year after Bowie, The Who, Paul McCartney. Who knows? And that is the great thing about it!

Long may this diversity and surprise continue!

I hope to god it NEVER becomes the festival BenchBuddah seems to want

[VCK]

Most festivals would give an arm and a limb to have Neil Young, Springsteen and Blur headlining all in the same year, regardless of how much they appeal to "old fogies".

[Kyelo]

robith I admire your patience but I fear you are wasting your breath.

Fact is, BenchBuddah would rather have Snow Patrol headlining the friday night than neil young. You simply cannot argue with someone with that mentality.

And does anyone else find this "pick a band from these 3 pools" utterly depressing and formulaic? Who would want a festival that predictable and boring? The great thing about galstonbury is you never know what you are going to get from one year to the next. Michael Eavis picks the best bands available each year irrespective of age etc.

Next year may well be Arctic Monkeys, Muse, Killers. Then the year after Bowie, The Who, Paul McCartney. Who knows? And that is the great thing about it!

Long may this diversity and surprise continue!

I hope to god it NEVER becomes the festival BenchBuddah seems to want

Edited March 31, 2009 by BenchBuddah

[russycarps]

Would be so hard as to read what I have said? I am not arguing for my personal tastes lol I've not once stated what I would personally like, so happens the only 'young' act I would like would be Muse. My attitude would be to try and please as many as possible, with your view it should be oldies happy, youngsters unhappy then the year after oldies unhappy, youngsters happy.

Edited March 31, 2009 by russycarps

[robith]

I wouldn't even go to Glastonbury if I based my judgement on the line-up. I'm merely playing devils advocate here.

Edited March 31, 2009 by robith

[ralph250]

Would be so hard as to read what I have said? I am not arguing for my personal tastes lol I've not once stated what I would personally like, so happens the only 'young' act I would like would be Muse. My attitude would be to try and please as many as possible, with your view it should be oldies happy, youngsters unhappy then the year after oldies unhappy, youngsters happy? Maybe I'm just an idealist.

[Kyelo]

my view is I dont really care. Over the course of 2 or 3 glastonburys I know I will have been more than well catered for. If there was one year that wasnt so good for me personally I would relax, enjoy myself and know that given the breadth of the festival next year I will be more than well compensated for.

Take a step back and look at the big picture. Have a look at the last 3 line ups. Do you still feel hard done by? Do you still feel it is a "dad rock". festival.

This is just one year in many.

Get a grip of yourself.

Idealist? or spoilt brat?

[robith]

lol I'm at uni, I've watched Bewitched in my union at the end of term party. The place was packed to the rafters, literally thousands singing and dancing. A proper electric atmosphere. Does that make us fans? Think not. Students will dance and sing to anything, literally. Anything, good or bad. I occasionally DJ in one of my unions also, I could play Spice Girls, then Bruce, then DJ Rankin, then KOL. I'd get a similar response from them all. That argument has no weight to it at all.

You play some of his biggest songs in a club and get a response, well duh. Same applies to mountains of acts ACDC, Madonna, Blondie, The Waterboys, The Beach Boys etc etc etc doesn't mean any of them will go and see them or own anything by them. I can 100% gaurantee you that most of that crowd that go nuts will own far more of Artic Monkeys, KOL, Bloc Party etc etc etc than Springsteen and if Glastonbury had one as a headliner there would be less complaints and more young people at Glasto.

[ShadyBlueBell]

Is that what the people who complain about the 'oldies' want??? A festival of younger bands for younger people?

OK, I'm sure the Prodigy and Radiohead would be welcomed by most (including myself), and I'm sure that a lot of the bands from R/L will make an appearance at Glasto.

But seriously, are those the kind of names that people want at the very top of a Glasto bill? Particularly given that most of them have played both Glasto and R/L in the last few years.

Young Springsteen and Blur is looking like an absolutely stonking bunch of headliners, even if we don't have the Mac or a '4th headliner' to look forward to now.