Mr Ploppy Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 WOW- look at some of the names browsing this thread... 51 Members: Mr Ploppy, eFestivals, simon-cowells-chin-high-pants, thelongfella, liverlou, Neil_Youngs_Bad_Back, blue6field, benf0ld, bcarrolluk, LRW, fluffypinkdaisy, Chazeboy, Sam Crawley, mynameisearl, amy_winehouse_the_new_face_of_immodium, ThomThomDrum, kerplunk, dave_hales, Saturday Boy, Pulpfan, Pinhead, Okky, mandypants, Bob_Hoskins, mazza, Radar, halvin, DaveMac, yasgursfarmhand, chief_scrutter, Filthy, dj267, indie_disco, jayhpool, Macca87, cossie65, Ashaz42, Monkismo, thom_yorkes_lazy_eye, 2009_sunniest_glasto_on_record, Yokel Again, Boz Boz, graham_lister, ralph250, airds, dacbo, biigsybmx, the_beatles_rool_da_universe, spuddy09, norainplease, kohoutec (fair enough, I made some up) MrPloppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okky Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I just checked the HTML source of the Glasto holding page, to discover that Glastonbury are now giving each user's browsing habits to google too. That's a very un-Glastonbury thing for them to be doing. I suspect that it's the doings of the peeps who've done the website and Glastonbury aren't aware of it. I'll be bring it to their attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisearl Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Question...........What if someones post quotes a post from one you are blocking? What happens there? Would your eyes be exposed to what is nought to be read?.............interesting one eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus Gwertigan Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Sorry for mentioning it again..........it was all a bit mad last night........... Question...........What if someones post quotes a post from one you are blocking? What happens there? Would your eyes be exposed to what is nought to be read?.............interesting one eh? YNWA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombfrog Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I just checked the HTML source of the Glasto holding page, to discover that Glastonbury are now giving each user's browsing habits to google too. That's a very un-Glastonbury thing for them to be doing. I suspect that it's the doings of the peeps who've done the website and Glastonbury aren't aware of it. I'll be bring it to their attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifi Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yea he is, he's on 27,268 posts the next closest person is sifimaster with 19,095 posts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj267 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 let's not bother about the line-up today. A new website is not far from being just as exciting..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Crawley Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I just checked the HTML source of the Glasto holding page, to discover that Glastonbury are now giving each user's browsing habits to google too. Edited May 21, 2009 by Sam Crawley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypinkdaisy Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) not having my browsing logged by those with no right to log my browsing habits. This site - unlike very many others - doesn't have google-analytics configured into it, which tracks all clicks on those sites (including where you exit to). Those using chrome have their every movement tracked by google. Etc, etc, etc. Edited May 21, 2009 by fluffypinkdaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Crawley Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 And the keywords on the holding page.. nothing controversial I'm afraid, I was hoping there'd be a "worship the devil" or "Scouting for Girls rule" tucked away there somewhere... "Glastonbury, Glastonbury Festival, Worthy Farm, Pilton, Michael Eavis, Emily Eavis, ticket, tickets, registration, contact, Pyramid Stage, line-up, information, address, directions, getting there, coach, bus, train, parking, caravan, camping, tipi, disabled, children, traders, Love the farm leave no trace, jobs, volunteering, oxfam, wateraid, greenpeace, stone circle, other stage, jazz world stage, the park, acoustic tent, dance village, the glade, field of avalon, theatre, circus, cabaret, shangri-la, trash city, greenfields, green fields, kidz, charities" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombfrog Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 And the keywords on the holding page.. nothing controversial I'm afraid, I was hoping there'd be a "worship the devil" or "Scouting for Girls rule" tucked away there somewhere... "Glastonbury, Glastonbury Festival, Worthy Farm, Pilton, Michael Eavis, Emily Eavis, ticket, tickets, registration, contact, Pyramid Stage, line-up, information, address, directions, getting there, coach, bus, train, parking, caravan, camping, tipi, disabled, children, traders, Love the farm leave no trace, jobs, volunteering, oxfam, wateraid, greenpeace, stone circle, other stage, jazz world stage, the park, acoustic tent, dance village, the glade, field of avalon, theatre, circus, cabaret, shangri-la, trash city, greenfields, green fields, kidz, charities" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Make sure you give them the facts, not just your sensationalist views. Google Analytics is a wonderful tool and there is nothing particularly evil they can do with the anonymous data they use for collating statistics. If you don't want to use it on your website then that's your choice but don't go spreading nonsense and turning GFL against their new web design company for no reason. I gave them just the facts - that google has their website users browsing habits as a result of its inclusion. From the dealings I've had with Glastonbury in the past I don't think they'd want to be doing that - it's for that reason alone I've brought it to their attention. While it might be included because Glasto feel that it's the easiest way for them to get website stats, it might be included for other reasons not anything to do with glasto (and I include the designers including it as standard with no sinister reasons behind that). Knowing what I know about Glasto, I just thought it right to bring it to their attention as they might not be aware its included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Google Analytics for the official Glasto site would be quite interesting I guess - to see the global spread etc. it gives nothing that can't be gleaned without giving that data to google tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairies for Change Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's a very un-Glastonbury thing for them to be doing. I suspect that it's the doings of the peeps who've done the website and Glastonbury aren't aware of it. I'll be bring it to their attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombfrog Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I gave them just the facts - that google has their website users browsing habits as a result of its inclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypinkdaisy Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I wouldn't put your stock in those numbers. I'm not entirely sure, but if threads are archived or removed or whatever, the post count drops accordingly. And also some people use more than one log-in. That's nothing to do with me feeling shame for wasting so much time on here, btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 It's interesting really, I've personally used Chrome(I use a mix of Opera and Chrome) really as soon as it came out and wondered what they can really take out of my browsing data by itself it doesn't mean very much. But when put together with everyone else's data, it means that Google have info on browsing habits not available to anyone else in such a comprehensive way. Some might say that's a good thing, of use for further 'net developments. I say my browsing habits are naff all to do with Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Crawley Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 But when put together with everyone else's data, it means that Google have info on browsing habits not available to anyone else in such a comprehensive way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Even that is misleading. I hope you told them that the stats are anonymous and that they can only be used in their aggregated form to run reports etc? <snip> I'm just picturing the scene in the offices of the company that designed the new website when GFL come to them and tell them that some bloke has told them that GA is somehow invading their users privacy. I didn't say that the stats are anonymous, because that would be no less misleading - because they're not. They have the user's IP address, which is not anonymous; further, they can get other stuff which can be used* to tie together the info from different IP addresses for users with dynamic IP addresses or using two different computers, to get much better tracking of an individual. (*whether or not they are doing I don't know, but I suspect they are) It is an invasion of privacy if their website users are not being told of its inclusion, no less than Phorm(?) is/was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph250 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Personally I thought neil's reaction was perfectly justified; as he's pointed out "Fingers crossed for a new official message boards...[this place is]....rubbish compared to how TOS used to be before it got dropped" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 You all know about Google opt out yeah? http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/html/opt-out.html Or better still scroogle: http://www.scroogle.org/scraper.html And regarding the Sun/Murdoch.. You all know that he now owns MySpace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srvman Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Should that not read 'Norn Iron'? Edited May 21, 2009 by srvman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I presume you saw the latest comments on the EU investigation re Google's data retention.. "People WILL DIE if Google isn't allowed to retain data"!!! Great sensationalist approach to the story.. Here's the Reg's story on it. Jesus! - I thought those words were your take on it. But that story is only about search data - at least most users should be aware that google are probably analysing what a user does on google. I doubt most users expect google to know what they're doing on other random websites via their analytics, which is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffypinkdaisy Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) edit:damm I type to slowly Edited May 21, 2009 by fluffypinkdaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 You all know about Google opt out yeah? http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/html/opt-out.html Opt-out? Why should I have to opt out of something when most places don't even say they're giving google that data? And further, that opt-out is no good unless I opt-out constantly, because the IP address I have this minute I might not have in five minutes time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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