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Relax man, you're getting totally worked up by something stupid...

I have nothing to 'face' I don't really post there much anymore and I've told them that it's shit there now many times. My warn level is 0%.

Atleast over there you could have a bit of humourous banter about things without people taking instant offence

Please don't ban me.... I wont be able to hurt and heal my favorite glastonbury acts :(

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by itself it doesn't mean very much.

But when put together with everyone else's data, it means that Google have info on browsing habits not available to anyone else in such a comprehensive way.

Some might say that's a good thing, of use for further 'net developments. I say my browsing habits are naff all to do with Google.

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It may be costing him money now but what worries me is that 90% of new musicians gravitate here to publicise their creations, so if you love music but hate Murdoch you are left in an a bit of an impossible dilemma. I wish someone would launch a rival to MySpace just for Musicians so that we didn't have to give up personal information News International every time I find a new interesting band I want to listen to
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It's just a number, it can't be used for anything. You have my IP address but you can't do anything with it.

incorrect. In certain circumstances it can be used to identify you and prosecute you.

Now, if they were working with ISPs to get my personal details to match up against them (pointless because people share PCs)

that's not worked as a valid defence in law to date.

then they may be able to sell on those details (which people wouldn't stand for anyway) or give them to the authorities. That might be worth getting upset about.

they can't do that, I agree.

Now if you want something to get genuinely upset about then why not concentrate your anger on the government/ISPs who want to collect far more data and can use it to do far more harm.

Oh, that annoys me more. But at least, if they were going to follow thru on that (they're not anymore), they'd at least have a legal right to that data and you'd know that they had that data.

Google are collecting their analytics data without the knowledge of the vast majority of people, and have no moral right to be doing so (outside of direct use by a user of their website, etc).

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It may be costing him money now but what worries me is that 90% of new musicians gravitate here to publicise their creations, so if you love music but hate Murdoch you are left in an a bit of an impossible dilemma. I wish someone would launch a rival to MySpace just for Musicians so that we didn't have to give up personal information News International every time I find a new interesting band I want to listen to

( HINT HINT BTW :D )

:( - love that hint. :)

But there's already a myriad of myspace alternatives out there, so just like with them all, if I started one it would fail as badly as those others. Myspace was first and so got the critical mass, much like efests has with festivals.

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:D - love that hint. :(

But there's already a myriad of myspace alternatives out there, so just like with them all, if I started one it would fail as badly as those others. Myspace was first and so got the critical mass, much like efests has with festivals.

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so are you saying you only have such a large audience because you were lucky - and got in there first - and nothing to do with the (alleged) hard work and effort put in by yourself....?

I'm not dismissing the work I've put in, but I'm not so daft to think that it's just that - there's plenty of excellent websites out there (not in the festivals area tho, of course :D) that get blown away on their readership by far inferior sites, simply as a result of them getting out there first.

Very many years ago, I did the website of a major-ish retailer, and the first big name in its area to get a shop online. The sales from it were far from spectacular (we're talking about 1995, there weren't spectacular numbers of 'net users), but it was done to a plan and budget, and the sales were hitting or surpassing that budget, and growing steadily.

But the boss, in his wisdom (:)), decided after less than a year that surpassing the plan he'd agreed to wasn't good enough, and he pulled the plug on the (not huge) funding for the site. He was too stupid to realise that the critical mass that site was getting would have catapulted that business to be the UK market leader by a very long way. Instead, it went the other way, and no longer exists. The pratt. :(

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