BZP - Herbal Ecstacy now Illegal

[Redcanadahat]

just got this from the BBC website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8061693.stm

Two "party" drugs linked to the death of young people will be banned under plans unveiled by the Home Office.

The move will make BZP - also known as herbal ecstasy - and industrial solvent GBL, sold as a "legal high", illegal.

The parents of Hester Stewart, 21, who died after taking GBL in Brighton last month, wrote to Home Secretary Jacqui Smith asking her to change the law.

And a coroner urged BZP to be banned after mortgage broker Daniel Backhouse, 22, died after using the drug.

The proposal would categorise BZP - which Mr Backhouse had mixed with ecstasy powder - as a Class C drug.

'Changing environment'

Ms Smith said: "I am determined that we respond to the dangers of these drugs and that is why I have committed to controlling them.

"It is absolutely right that we continue to adapt our drug policy to the changing environment of substance misuse.

"This is the next step in tackling the unregulated market of so-called 'legal highs'."

BZP - made illegal in the Republic of Ireland earlier this year - would carry a UK prison term of up to two years for possession and 14 years for dealing.

The drug, originally a worming treatment for cattle, can cause serious heart problems, vomiting, anxiety attacks, mood swings and seizures.

GBL is taken as a substitute for party drug GHB, which is already outlawed.

The Home Office's consultation paper on the drugs also includes proposals to ban some anabolic steroids, which have been linked to infertility and liver problems.

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Seriously reckon illegal class A's are safer than this rubbish.

*edit* spelt ecstasy wrong in the title..my bad.

Edited May 21, 2009 by Redcanadahat

[kohoutec]

It's hardly herbal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine

[Redcanadahat]

ah really? i am almost certain I saw this on sale at glasto last year. perhaps i read the ingredients wrong

[kohoutec]

ah really? i am almost certain I saw this on sale at glasto last year. perhaps i read the ingredients wrong

Edited May 21, 2009 by kohoutec

[evansonuk]

just got this from the BBC website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8061693.stm

Two "party" drugs linked to the death of young people will be banned under plans unveiled by the Home Office.

The move will make BZP - also known as herbal ecstasy - and industrial solvent GBL, sold as a "legal high", illegal.

The parents of Hester Stewart, 21, who died after taking GBL in Brighton last month, wrote to Home Secretary Jacqui Smith asking her to change the law.

And a coroner urged BZP to be banned after mortgage broker Daniel Backhouse, 22, died after using the drug.

The proposal would categorise BZP - which Mr Backhouse had mixed with ecstasy powder - as a Class C drug.

'Changing environment'

Ms Smith said: "I am determined that we respond to the dangers of these drugs and that is why I have committed to controlling them.

"It is absolutely right that we continue to adapt our drug policy to the changing environment of substance misuse.

"This is the next step in tackling the unregulated market of so-called 'legal highs'."

BZP - made illegal in the Republic of Ireland earlier this year - would carry a UK prison term of up to two years for possession and 14 years for dealing.

The drug, originally a worming treatment for cattle, can cause serious heart problems, vomiting, anxiety attacks, mood swings and seizures.

GBL is taken as a substitute for party drug GHB, which is already outlawed.

The Home Office's consultation paper on the drugs also includes proposals to ban some anabolic steroids, which have been linked to infertility and liver problems.

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Seriously reckon illegal class A's are safer than this rubbish.

*edit* spelt ecstasy wrong in the title..my bad.

[spikytom]

im not sure if bzp was being sold at glasto last year but i wouldnt be surprised, seen it sold at festivals before. and its horrible, horrible stuff too

[Redcanadahat]

I would seriously stay away from that stuff - more chance of dying from that than you're illegals..

i speak from experience...1 pill lasted for about 3 days...was a nightmare.

[Yorkshire Chomper]

Had a go on herbals few years ago. Gave me about 15 minutes mild head rush, the shits for a day and relieved me of about 40 quid.

Stay clear.

[greg1999]

good, bzp's horrible stuff, massive headaches and afew days of insomnia.

[sammysundae]

i haven't taken it. but it was on sale at festivals last year. i don't know about glastonbury. herbal highs (except salvia) are for idiots. one of my mates took this and ended up rushing for about 2 days. it was horrible. he couldn't stop heavy breathing and he felt like crap. i'm glad they're illegal. now how about legalising a few things that don't harm anyone?

[Chimps in Balaclavas]

The government needs to reasses then reclassify all drugs because at the moment their view on what's safe and what's harmful is truely laughable.

[sammysundae]

The government needs to reasses then reclassify all drugs because at the moment their view on what's safe and what's harmful is truely laughable.

[CardiffWanderer]

The government needs to reasses then reclassify all drugs because at the moment their view on what's safe and what's harmful is truely laughable.

[Bandtosdog]

I would seriously stay away from that stuff - more chance of dying from that than you're illegals..

i speak from experience...1 pill lasted for about 3 days...was a nightmare.

[HenrysCat]

i haven't taken it. but it was on sale at festivals last year. i don't know about glastonbury. herbal highs (except salvia) are for idiots. one of my mates took this and ended up rushing for about 2 days. it was horrible. he couldn't stop heavy breathing and he felt like crap. i'm glad they're illegal. now how about legalising a few things that don't harm anyone?

Edited May 21, 2009 by HenrysCat

[markeee]

What do you think is in most illegal e's these days? lets face it for £3 a pop it isn't going to be mdma or even mda, its mostly bzp and other nasty stuff, even mdma crystal is very rarely mdma. There is reportedly a european shortage of one of the key ingredients used in the synthesis of ecstasy so dealers are being inventive and using all sorts of stuff including lots of the so called legal highs.

[Maverick Pirate]

those herbal highs: you might as well take sleeping tablets. All they do is make you drowsy and feel lethargic and shit. They have a worse effect on one's health than actual drugs. My advice - steer clear!

[newagehippie]

those herbal highs: you might as well take sleeping tablets. All they do is make you drowsy and feel lethargic and shit. They have a worse effect on one's health than actual drugs. My advice - steer clear!

[Sparky]

Just because you've tried one legal high and it didn't do much to you, doesn't mean that's the same for all of them - and it's actually a very dangerous thing to tell people.

Some of them can be very very strong, so just be careful.

And as posted above classifications of drugs are so out of touch with the reality, its not even funny.

Mushrooms class a? do your research MPs please, that's what you're paid very handsomely to do.

[Sparky]

also....by banning more and more substances, what's actually going to happpen is the manufacturers of legal highs are going to just find different chemicals to use, which will potentially be far worse that what has been banned.

let's not forget there are almost limitless chemical cocktails that can be produced if someone is willing to put the time and money in. what are we going to do? just continue to ban everything? "sigh"

[evansonuk]

what happened when you took it? i can't remember which 'herbal high' i took last year but i remember hanging in shangrila and not being able to sleep for like 16 hours. that was all it did really.

[deschwah]

do not go anywhere near this stuff especially if there is a risk of mixing with mdma

i have very close first hand experience of, inparticular, a toxicologist who worked on the inquest of a lad who recently died in sheffield because of mixing the two

it is lethal so....

stick to brothers, herbs and only anything else you are certain of being able to handle

[Bandtosdog]

mdma is also hard to make

but as you say, lots of pills are full of crap these days ..mcpp etc

[Kyelo]

BZP can be banned all they like, the manufacturers will just move on to alternatives like MBZP. Last year my lecturer said that there are around 2000 mind altering drugs and current research points to that within the next few decades there will be 20,000. Point being, the government(of any country)will never be able to stay on top of drugs. There will always be something new for messheads to have fun with

Edited May 23, 2009 by BenchBuddah

[Sandy Scene]

mephedrone is by far the best legal alternative and imo is a very close second to pure mdma