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I have not got a problem with the selling on of tickets......at face value or less and only from legitimate sources. I cannot understand how anyone can encourage touts to sell on at the highest price possible ...especially when there is a limited supply of tickets and they get hold of the majority.

The other problem is that the touts also sell on fake tickets......and people will buy them because they know that they are allowed to sell the real ones. With Glastonbury nobody in their right mind will buy a ticket off a tout because they know it will be fake.

So as far as I am concerned registration is the right way to go...and lets face it in this day and age we should all be used to supplying info to companies whether we like it or not.

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All tickets should have photos on be it concerts or festivals. Half the gigs that sell out in seconds are down to Touts.

Touts are the scum of the earth!

Anything that can be done to eradicate this selfish behavior should be applauded. The initial point of sale wont care because they get their money though!

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To be honest the guy has a point about the registration system. I feel extremely uncomfortable with the idea of uploading that much information just to get a ticket. But from what I understand I am alone in that view.

I believe it does go against the grain of what the festival may have stood for in the past.

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I think the registration is a great idea. Ive lost count of the times ive missed out on gig tickets because the ticket sales line/website been jammed, only to see hundreds of tickets on ebay going for at least double the price :huh:

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Up loading that much information? What information exactly. You have to send off your address and bank details anyway to buy and receive the tickets! All you're adding is a dodgy passport photo, and they send you a dedicated number.

What the festival may have stood for.. still stands in essence, and its only greedy bastards who want a free ride by fence jumping, or want to make a quick buck through the advent of EBAY etc have thus resulted in the registration system being initiated.

Times have changed, and the festival has had to change with them.

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Up loading that much information? What information exactly. You have to send off your address and bank details anyway to buy and receive the tickets! All you're adding is a dodgy passport photo, and they send you a dedicated number.

What the festival may have stood for.. still stands in essence, and its only greedy bastards who want a free ride by fence jumping, or want to make a quick buck through the advent of EBAY etc have thus resulted in the registration system being initiated.

Times have changed, and the festival has had to change with them.

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One thing that really bothers me about registration is the the data that is held on us and who may access it. Last year there were a lot of police with cameras at various positions around the site and they were taking a lot of photos, there is a good chance that any one of us could have been snapped. If the police then used the RIPA laws or some other powers to access the GFL database they could easily use face recognition software to identify anyone in one of the photos they took. I'm not saying this happens but it is certainly a possibility. This is a step up from the surveillance that we are routinely subject to in this country as it is like living in a city where the police have a photographic record of every citizen. I'm not saying this is definitely going on, but if it is not, why exactly are they taking so many photos of us instead of just performing the regular police work that they are there to do?

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One thing that really bothers me about registration is the the data that is held on us and who may access it. Last year there were a lot of police with cameras at various positions around the site and they were taking a lot of photos, there is a good chance that any one of us could have been snapped. If the police then used the RIPA laws or some other powers to access the GFL database they could easily use face recognition software to identify anyone in one of the photos they took. I'm not saying this happens but it is certainly a possibility. This is a step up from the surveillance that we are routinely subject to in this country as it is like living in a city where the police have a photographic record of every citizen. I'm not saying this is definitely going on, but if it is not, why exactly are they taking so many photos of us instead of just performing the regular police work that they are there to do?
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Exactly. So now we have a system that has my payment details and a photograph. I am very careful on what I give out, and always will be. It's an onconcerting thig when Glastonbury becomes an advert for a notional ID scheme.
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One thing that really bothers me about registration is the the data that is held on us and who may access it. Last year there were a lot of police with cameras at various positions around the site and they were taking a lot of photos, there is a good chance that any one of us could have been snapped. If the police then used the RIPA laws or some other powers to access the GFL database they could easily use face recognition software to identify anyone in one of the photos they took. I'm not saying this happens but it is certainly a possibility. This is a step up from the surveillance that we are routinely subject to in this country as it is like living in a city where the police have a photographic record of every citizen. I'm not saying this is definitely going on, but if it is not, why exactly are they taking so many photos of us instead of just performing the regular police work that they are there to do?
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One thing that really bothers me about registration is the the data that is held on us and who may access it. Last year there were a lot of police with cameras at various positions around the site and they were taking a lot of photos, there is a good chance that any one of us could have been snapped. If the police then used the RIPA laws or some other powers to access the GFL database they could easily use face recognition software to identify anyone in one of the photos they took. I'm not saying this happens but it is certainly a possibility. This is a step up from the surveillance that we are routinely subject to in this country as it is like living in a city where the police have a photographic record of every citizen. I'm not saying this is definitely going on, but if it is not, why exactly are they taking so many photos of us instead of just performing the regular police work that they are there to do?
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Yea viagogo. It allows you to sell on tickets and guarantee's buyer/seller's money/ticket. But you can sell it for as much as you want. I am all for selling tickets on if you've got spares and if you make a few quid on the side does it make you a bad person, I don't know, personally I'd sell a ticket for face value. However with this system it encourages people to buy six tickets at £180 each and then sell them on possibly make £50-£60 (if not more on each one). So thats about £300-£360 profit. The website and the paternship with Festival Republic is an extremely bad thing.
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Time to drag out my ticketing proposals again.

I should update it really. The hardware costs have gone way down since I wrote it. A netbook at each gate would be enough.

It's a bit of a heavy read if you go from the top. Better to start with "scenarios" if you're impatient.

http://www.ladle.demon.co.uk/misc/ideas/ticketing.html

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I'll get slated for this but I think he's right. At the end of the day touts will only charge what people will pay. If touts were selling tickets for £1,000 in 04/05 then that's what they were worth, likewise last year they would have ended up having to sell them at roughly the same value as the festival as it only just sold out. What would people think if all the Glastonbury tickets were put on ebay and you had to bid for them? Either way you find the fair value of a ticket, we're just lucky that Eavis often charges less for a ticket than it's worth.

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