Having a smoke

[LusciousLucy]

I now indulge in smoking mixes that when preparing a smoke unfortuneately look like immense bags of green and raise a LOT of eyebrows as I prepare my indulgence!

Have had plenty of fun preparing a smoke in many a pub knowing full well the contents in my bag are totally legal (coltsfoot, damiana, passionflower etc) but to the usual untrained eye...could get me into some trouble.

Been trying out my Moroccan Mull mix from Weedworld tonight...very fluffy indeed...and all legal! Woo!

And if I ever get asked...I can just show them the bag and as I tend to also carry round the accompanying literature as well...if asked...I can prove it and tell em all to f**k of!!

[Josie's Cat]

Dunno about the blue coat security folks, but I saw a genuinely nice police lady on a horse near the Park field talking to a punter who was clearly having a bad time of it... she had her hand on his shoulder and was speaking calmly saying "It's alright now, son, you're just having a bad trip, it's just a bad trip..." I thought it was quite sweet, really.

[mandypants]

The guy was probably doing alright until a giant talking animal told him he was having a bad trip!

[ShadyBlueBell]

you should have got him to call the police, he was just trying to steal your gear

[glosoli]

I get really on edge when I see those blue jackets, but not when I see the coppers.

If I see security anywhere near me I hide my spliff but I don't bother for the cops 'cos I know they don't really care. I walked passed a copper when I was blazing a doob and they winked at me!

[St.Jimmy]

one of the guys i was camping with had a 1/4 of weed confiscated by blue coat security and managed to get 2 different lots of dud acid, he was rather naive about it all tho

[scaryclaireyfairy]

the police know as well as anyone that it's not the stoners that are ever gonna cause them real problems. they must view it as a nice easy weekend's work, really. it sure must beat a weekend in any city centre.

[mungo57]

I walked right past old bill toking and nothing happened. Security walked past my tent whilst I was skiining up and just looked at me and my mate and carried on walking! I am hearing contrasting statements re: ganj at Glasto this year lol.

[StoneCircle]

My best mate had her stash of Moraccan Black confiscated at the gate on day 1, a £30 wrap gone, she managed to hang on to her palm pipe by telling the security guy a friend had bought it and it was special as the friend had died.

She was a bit frightened so didn't challange them - should she have?

What is the law on this these days?

[HuggyHare]

Does anyone here know exactly what powers the blue security guys have. I mean they're not coppers. I'd love to know what they can and can't enforce. What could they have done if anyone ignored that ludicrous one-way system at the Shangri-La for instance?

I remember walking back from Rolf at the Jazz stage and being confronted by a line of bins across the main path. I asked one of the blue coats what that was all about and he said it was because of the amount of people leaving. As far as I could see, the line of bins just made it worse. It's like they were finding things to do to justify them being there in the first place.

[Peevis]

I'm gonna start this on a positive because this year has been the best Glasto in the 8 years I've been going, soooo many good bands, Shangri - la, Arcadia, and Trash city just blew me away!!!!

However we did encounter problems when haveing a bit of a toke on more than one occasion, I've been doing this sort of thing since first coming in 98 with no problem what so ever. basically to cut a long story short we were out at our tent near the Jazz stage chilling before Q-tip on friday when one of the blue jacketed security came towards us, we hid what we had away but he told us he could smell it a mile off and not to bother hiding it. He demanded everything we had or he'd call more security and the police. then gave us a lecture on how he hates it, hates the mell hates people that do it. so we hand over what i have and he goes away telling us if he catches u s again etc etc........

2 days later just get back after The Prodigy its the last day we've just got back from one of the sets of the weekend, thinking no ones gonna bother us on the last day I blaze another and finish it within a few seconds who turns up but our friend in security, this time hes going mad threatening to get the police to tear the tent appart I hand over what little I have left (2 j's worth) he say this is not all of it and again starts threatening with calling police and more security. At this point my mate has gone off for a slash. At this point I dont know if he has anything stashed in the tent or not I go through his bags and find nothing. luckily just before He calls the police my mate comes back He is forced to hand over everything he has. luckily security goes away at this point but he watched us all evening.

Did any one else experience any killjoy c**nts like this, this year ? I've personally never had any problem with them before.

One last thing where was he when my mates tent got robbed eh??? looking for people sat enjoying themselves probably

(appologies for poor spelling etc..... )

Edited July 8, 2009 by Peevis

[Filthy]

To the OP, we were camped in Holts field near the Jazzworld. On Friday morning just after the rain stopped we had the flap of the tent open but were all still inside and doing balloons. 3 Blue security stick their heads in and say "keeping it legal guys?" We say yes but then they start bullshitting about the dispenser being a fire hazard!!! My mate starts arguing with them, whilst she's doing that we all hid the full cartridges and one of our dispensers. After a few minutes this guy threatens my mate with "The eviction squad" if she doesn't hand over the dispenser and canisters. We gave them the dodgy one and all our empties as we couldn't be bothered with further hassle but it did strike us as dodgy. They also said "We were only in this area because we were off to that tent over there with the strong smell of weed"

[LostRiot]

At glasto I generally think if you've got it lit you're ok, could walk past all the security you can find and they wouldn't care, but if they see you rolling they just like to assert their authority.

[Josie's Cat]

A dispenser a fire hazard? As opposed to the thousands of camp stoves being lit all over the ground, not to mention those firesticks being flogged all over the place. And loads of campfires everywhere. What a w*nker, he was obviously just wanting to get your stuff, thieving bastard!

[Filthy]

A dispenser a fire hazard? As opposed to the thousands of camp stoves being lit all over the ground, not to mention those firesticks being flogged all over the place. And loads of campfires everywhere. What a w*nker, he was obviously just wanting to get your stuff, thieving bastard!

[Josie's Cat]

I think this would be a prime place for the Mirror to put one of their undercover reporters, and do a bust on how much stuff is actually nicked by security.

I say the Mirror because they did the one at Buck house and one where they pretended to be an arab sheikh, so they could deffo do a security ape at glasto, no worries!

Edited July 8, 2009 by Josie's Cat

[ivan]

the police know as well as anyone that it's not the stoners that are ever gonna cause them real problems. they must view it as a nice easy weekend's work, really. it sure must beat a weekend in any city centre.

[Monkfi5h]

I didn't have any run ins with security in blue jackets, but couldn't help laughing when watching Easy Star All Stars at Dance East, with a nervous looking pint sized female fire marshall trying to get 80% of the ppl in there to put out there spliffs.

However after 10 minutes of running around and breathing in the second hand smoke she just seemed to stop dead still, had a look of confusion on her face and proceeded to start grooving along with everybody else!

Bless her, but she seriously was fighting a loosing battle in that tent...

[paulo999]

... ludicrous one-way system at the Shangri-La for instance?

[Peevis]

The one-way system is there for safety.

It's not only at football matches where people have died due to poor crowd control, it has happened at a major European festival aswell.

It may be dull, but it's the right way to run it.

Edited July 8, 2009 by Peevis

[eFestivals]

He told us that the police were leaving it to them as it was 3 to 4 hours paperwork for the cops but they could deal with it there and then.

he told you utter bull .... I was 'busted' (just got a caution) with weed at a fest a few years ago, and the old bill were done and dusted with me in less than five minutes, with all the paperwork done.

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It seems to be the case that the security target the younger festival goers, who are likely to be less sure of their rights and more scared of the consequences of the old bill getting involved. As is pretty clear from the posts here, the old bill generally don't give a stuff about people having a toke (tho there's always going to be one or two who get all officious, just cos they can).

A friend of mine's husband was one of the senior undercover coppers at Homelands a while back. He told us that he had lots of people offer him pills, he simply said 'no thanks' and let them go on their way - the only guy he did nick went thru the same thing with him saying 'no thanks', only for that dealer to get a bag of pills out of his pocket and wave it in his face and say "are you sure?" .... that was too much for him to ignore, so matey gets nicked. Fair enough I reckon, matey shouldn't have been so pushy.

A friend who has worked as a steward at a few fests has now stopped doing if, outraged by the fact that the stewards he was working with were confiscating people's drugs for their own use &/or to sell on. So it's not only the security.

Personally, if I had security or a steward try to take drugs off me, I'd tell them to involve the old bill. I know the consequences of that wouldn't scare me (a small fine at worst, but quite possibly not even a caution), and they'd be no further consequences for me. However, with so many checks for many people nowadays working in certain jobs (such as teachers needing to be officially checked out before they can be employed, as well as on-going checks) I know that's not the case for everyone.

But if you don't work in one of those sorts of roles and can't see yourself ever working in those sorts of roles, then I recommend that you do involve the old bill - after all, the more these arseholes get away with robbing people of their recreationals, the more they'll do it. If they come to realise that there's no personal benefit for them, then they won't do it.

However, having said all that ..... festivals are required via their licence to uphold the laws of the land, so they can't go telling their security to let drug taking pass without action, so there's always going to be an amount of action taken by some over-officious security personnel.

Unfortunately for festivals, the amount of crime happening on site can come back on them via the licencing process, so they have to take the line that drug taking shouldn't happen whatever their personal views (and their personal views are often "give me some of that spliff" - I've shared spliffs with plenty of festie organisers in my time ). The one time I was busted at a festival I made a point of apologising to the festie organiser for adding to his crime figures, but he really wasn't bothered by that at all (I'm pleased to say).

All the same, it's a crime, and you should expect it to be treated as such if you're caught. As the saying goes "if you can't do the time (or pay the fine) then don't do the crime".

[hayleycurran1704]

To be fair and accurate, only footie matches attended by Scousers.

Fair play though, there are Scousers @ Glasto!

Careful peeps!

[grandadcollective]

As it says in the fine guide/on the website the law is the same inside the festival. Stewards/security have no more power to confiscate anything within the fest than they do outside (regardless of what they may have been told to do by the organisers), they are not the police. Neil gives the right advice and you should insist on the police being involved. For that matter the same goes for being manhandled by security/stewards, it is assault and shouldn't be tolerated. Also anyone, including police who enters/opens your tent unannounced should be reported. If you suffer any of the above get their number and report it to the police, inform them that is what you will do and my best guess is that they will sod off sharpish.

In short they can ask, but they can't force! If they feel you are in breach of the law/festival rules and you fail to comply then the police must be involved or they are acting without the backing of the law.

[PabloCoke]

To be fair and accurate, only footie matches attended by Scousers.

Fair play though, there are Scousers @ Glasto!

Careful peeps!

[Lad]

To be fair and accurate, only footie matches attended by Scousers.

Fair play though, there are Scousers @ Glasto!

Careful peeps!

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