SECURITY - Issues

[TokiDoki]

My friend was searched and had to remove his shoes just after it had been raining, so that his feet got all wet. He didn't have anything on him.

[windy_miller]

Thirded. The pass out system at present is silly! It is too prone to loss of ticket or pass out. I also don't understand why a pass out is necessary as well as a ticket. A system just using wristbands would speed things up.

[oafc0000]

Went in and out the gate every day and sometimes twice in a day and didnt get searched once...

They are just doing their jobs at end of the day... Just work with them and surely it wont take to long...

[benissright]

Only problem i had was the security during kasabian who seemed to have no interest in doing their job and instead just watched the band. At the 2nd barrier.

[posthuman]

Thirded. The pass out system at present is silly! It is too prone to loss of ticket or pass out. I also don't understand why a pass out is necessary as well as a ticket. A system just using wristbands would speed things up.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Really? You really can't figure out why they have passouts?

A group of 10 people want to go to the festival. 6 have tickets, 4 do not.

The six go in and get wristbanded.

Once inside, four of them take their wristbands off; one walks out with the tickets and wristbands of the 4 of their mates in their pockets, gives them to the ticketless folk on the other side, and then the other 4 can get in.

By giving out passouts, only one passout will be given to the guy leaving, and so the other four will not be able to get onsite with the smuggled wristbands and tickets.

-------------

Yes, the process is complicated and prone to people losing bits of paper. Yes, other festivals seem to cope without, and just accept the fact that a few people will do it. But after the overcrowding before the superfence, Mendip council are red hot on the number of people getting onsite and the passout system is the only way to convince Mendip that the festival are adhering to their licensed capacity.

Want the passout system ditched? Then don't expect the festival to get a new license...

TBH the only way I can see round the passout system is to stick a RFID chip in each wristband, and scan it when each person enters and leaves the site. That way a ticket is either 'on site' or 'off site' and you can only re-enter the site if your status is 'off site'. That way you counteract the smuggling out of wristbands and tickets in people's pockets. Of course, you would need to have a virtually indestructible chip, and people would cry 'foul' over privacy concerns, which is probably why it isn't done...

Edited July 1, 2009 by Rufus Gwertigan

[oafc0000]

Really? You really can't figure out why they have passouts?

A group of 10 people want to go to the festival. 6 have tickets, 4 do not.

The six go in and get wristbanded.

Once inside, four of them take their wristbands off; one walks out with the tickets and wristbands of the 4 of their mates in their pockets, gives them to the ticketless folk on the other side, and then the other 4 can get in.

By giving out passouts, only one passout will be given to the guy leaving, and so the other four will not be able to get onsite with the smuggled wristbands and tickets.

Edited July 1, 2009 by oafc0000

[Hiphopopotamus]

Stewart Security of Bristol are a bunch of sharks, they're pretty much like any private security firm, they employ a lot of serving forces personel who're there simply for a ruck, they all work 12 hour shifts so any kind of 'Action' is really appreciated. They see it as a game. How do i know this? I actually had the misfortune of working for them at the Leeds festival in 2003...NEVER...EVER....AGAIN Would i represent that bunch of shitehawks!!

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Stewart Security of Bristol are a bunch of sharks, they're pretty much like any private security firm, they employ a lot of serving forces personel who're there simply for a ruck, they all work 12 hour shifts so any kind of 'Action' is really appreciated. They see it as a game. How do i know this? I actually had the misfortune of working for them at the Leeds festival in 2003...NEVER...EVER....AGAIN Would i represent that bunch of shitehawks!!

[504329lt]

Really? You really can't figure out why they have passouts?

A group of 10 people want to go to the festival. 6 have tickets, 4 do not.

The six go in and get wristbanded.

Once inside, four of them take their wristbands off; one walks out with the tickets and wristbands of the 4 of their mates in their pockets, gives them to the ticketless folk on the other side, and then the other 4 can get in.

By giving out passouts, only one passout will be given to the guy leaving, and so the other four will not be able to get onsite with the smuggled wristbands and tickets.

-------------

Yes, the process is complicated and prone to people losing bits of paper. Yes, other festivals seem to cope without, and just accept the fact that a few people will do it. But after the overcrowding before the superfence, Mendip council are red hot on the number of people getting onsite and the passout system is the only way to convince Mendip that the festival are adhering to their licensed capacity.

Want the passout system ditched? Then don't expect the festival to get a new license...

TBH the only way I can see round the passout system is to stick a RFID chip in each wristband, and scan it when each person enters and leaves the site. That way a ticket is either 'on site' or 'off site' and you can only re-enter the site if your status is 'off site'. That way you counteract the smuggling out of wristbands and tickets in people's pockets. Of course, you would need to have a virtually indestructible chip, and people would cry 'foul' over privacy concerns, which is probably why it isn't done...

[Derby_Dave]

I left and returned 3 or 4 times during the weekend through gate D and never got searched once. The security seemed quite relaxed and pleasant.

If you have a 'genuine' gripe or concern about the behaviour of the security not just you were searched then I suggest you send them to Glastonbury festivals hopefully they will listen and act accordingly.

Unfortunately in their nature private security firms will have a renegade element.

Edited July 1, 2009 by Derby_Dave

[Derby_Dave]

i should add that maybe they should have...........

[Glastonbury_2011]

Stewart Security of Bristol are a bunch of sharks, they're pretty much like any private security firm, they employ a lot of serving forces personel who're there simply for a ruck, they all work 12 hour shifts so any kind of 'Action' is really appreciated. They see it as a game. How do i know this? I actually had the misfortune of working for them at the Leeds festival in 2003...NEVER...EVER....AGAIN Would i represent that bunch of shitehawks!!

[TalkShow Bob]

BUT the tickets have their photos on do they not.

Staff do not use pass outs, so surely an electronic system could be put in place, especially for the campervans?? After all they pay 65 quid more.

[504329lt]

You're bang on. I attempted to get a stewards atttention by leaning on the crush barrier at the Pyramid stage and he went mental. He really looked like he wanted to punch me the little ginger f**ker.

They're a bunch of f**king tools the lot of them. I hope they f**king rot in the hell the dirty c**ts.

Edited July 1, 2009 by 504329lt

[Prest02000]

BUT the tickets have their photos on do they not.

Staff do not use pass outs, so surely an electronic system could be put in place, especially for the campervans?? After all they pay 65 quid more.

[TalkShow Bob]

You're bang on. I attempted to get a stewards atttention by leaning on the crush barrier at the Pyramid stage and he went mental. He really looked like he wanted to punch me the little ginger f**ker.

They're a bunch of f**king tools the lot of them. I hope they f**king rot in the hell the dirty c**ts.

[shangri-la_steward]

the blue vested security guy at G stage went and got cups of drinking water for us without even being asked

on the flip side a different steward confiscated my mates weed by offering the alternative of expulsion. w@nker!!

[djtashman]

he then insisted that i empty my pockets which i did, he ignored my multibladed camping knife and wanted to search my wallet, i refused and just open it up for him to show him contents.

he seemed genuinly disappointed that he had found no drugs, from talking to other poeple there appears to of been no records of searches/confiscations, whilst it can not be proved i am convinced the vast majority of drug confiscations ended up for sale on site.

[oafc0000]

the blue vested security guy at G stage went and got cups of drinking water for us without even being asked

on the flip side a different steward confiscated my mates weed by offering the alternative of expulsion. w@nker!!

[shangri-la_steward]

To be fair not really... Front row, smoking weed, security give big thumbs up... Not going to look good on the BBC is it to mendip council....

[Rufus Gwertigan]

It doesn't stop you getting though, all you need to do is get in with a passout and it's game on.

[oafc0000]

sorry i should have been more explicit. these two incidents happened in totally different locations

plus i didnt realise the bbc filmed the G stage!

[oafc0000]

I really dont get the need for a pass out...

Whats up with just having the ticket AND wrist band... I dont see how you can break that system ?

[shangri-la_steward]

Whats the G Stage sorry