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[sifi]

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Edited July 13, 2009 by sifimaster

[Stashbox]

At one other festival I work at the post-festival site fingertip search by the litter pickers has to be so thorough that not a single fag end or piece of silly string or whatever can be left as the site has to be used the rest of the year as a Caravan Club site where the punters expect a spotless site.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

At one other festival I work at the post-festival site fingertip search by the litter pickers has to be so thorough that not a single fag end or piece of silly string or whatever can be left as the site has to be used the rest of the year as a Caravan Club site where the punters expect a spotless site.

One suggestion I have is that there should be a 20 minute period set aside each day for all the festival goers to do a mass litterpick of their area. But whether it would get many particpants I don't know.

Interestingly, I know that Michael Eavis has commissioned a study on the carbon footprint of Glastonbury which will make interesting reading.

[Jackmypie]

stupid Duckers

Why do people do this

[FunkyDenz]

The Big Chill also have trolleys for hire from one of their carparks, £5 per half-hour, to help with taking everything to the campsite. It doesn't say if they have them for the return to the carpark on Monday, although I would assume so.

Amnesty International organise this, I imagine it would be possible to organise at Glastonbury as well, perhaps you pick up the trolley on the Monday through the camp stewards, and have trolley drop-off points in the carparks.

[cejx]

The Big Chill also have trolleys for hire from one of their carparks, £5 per half-hour, to help with taking everything to the campsite. It doesn't say if they have them for the return to the carpark on Monday, although I would assume so.

Amnesty International organise this, I imagine it would be possible to organise at Glastonbury as well, perhaps you pick up the trolley on the Monday through the camp stewards, and have trolley drop-off points in the carparks.

[TimmyP's Mobile Disco]

Are all of these people so wealthy that they can afford to just abandon their tents?

I've had 2 tents in my lifetime to go to Glastonbury with and then only reason I had a 2nd tent is because some idiot burnt a hole in my 1st one with sparks from a fire.

I'm sure the vast majority of these people don't leave their homes like this why would they do it someone else's.

The bucket filled with shit just leaves me astonished.

[Storm_NL]

Are all of these people so wealthy that they can afford to just abandon their tents?

I've had 2 tents in my lifetime to go to Glastonbury with and then only reason I had a 2nd tent is because some idiot burnt a hole in my 1st one with sparks from a fire.

I'm sure the vast majority of these people don't leave their homes like this why would they do it someone else's.

[Funkyfairy!]

I feel sad watching that video. How much time does it take to bag up your litter and take it to the designated spots. It's all about respect, plain and simple,

You wouldn;t go round to a friends and throw your beer cans/litter in their garden and leave it so why do it at Glastonbury. It's a pain packing up tents and lugging them to the car, but you've done it on the way in, so do it on the way out, plain and simple

We left nothing, not a thing and I wouldn't dream on leaving even the smallest scrap of anything on our small pitch

ggggrrrr :-(

[FunkyDenz]

yeah, but this doesn't address the issue of general litter...and people not clearing up their areas after themselves. and if folk can't be arsed to take down their five quid tent, they still won't... trolly or no trolly.

[Langdale Wolf]

I think people take far too much. We used to, but a last year we decided to go minimal - like we used to when we first went.

I also don't understand why people can't take some stuff back to the car before they actually leave. I normally take a load back to the car whilst my other half takes down the tent.

[OssO_87]

This saddens me further as the people i camped with mainly my mates mates, couldnt even be bothered to put ther can in a bag around our campsite, instead they just dropped ther can on the ground even if they were just sitting on a chair, you needed a chair to sit around our campsite otherwise ud be sitting on all rubbish! shant be camping with them next year.

[russycarps]

that bucket of stools is the most horrific thing I have ever seen. What sort of animals would create such an abomination?

[K-Rod]

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[GingerRock]

There are people in the world who just don't care about the effect that their actions have on others, or the environment. And probably worse are those that take pride in it. A typical argument of the cretin would be "why should I pick it up - I've paid for a ticket", or "it's someone's job to clean up after me", or "don't spoil my fun, man, it's a festival".

I live in Cambridge, which has lovely greens near the river, where we often like to take some drinks or a picnic, and sit out on a nice day. That's one of the nice things about the town - nice green spaces. We always clean up after ourselves - after all it's literally a 10 second walk to the nearest bin with your rubbish. But I've seen groups of people just leave big piles of rubbish there, rather than chucking it in a bin on their way out. Unbelievable. Spoils it for everyone.

Comes down to no respect for others and poor upbringing, basically.

Edited July 13, 2009 by GingerRock

[Joshuwarr]

It was raining, the tent wasnt going in the bag and I'm afraid only some of our mess was in bin bags but we did ensure it was all in one pile together. I know its bad but we tried our best :/

Definitely gonna make more effort next year. I think there should be campsite assistants going round assisting people with packing their stuff away and whilst doing so encouraging them to tidy up. Then also ask for donations

[Storm_NL]

I live in Cambridge, which has lovely greens near the river, where we often like to take some drinks or a picnic, and sit out on a nice day. That's one of the nice things about the town - nice green spaces. We always clean up after ourselves - after all it's literally a 10 second walk to the nearest bin with your rubbish. But I've seen groups of people just leave big piles of rubbish there, rather than chucking it in a bin on their way out. Unbelievable. Spoils it for everyone.

Comes down to no respect for others and poor upbringing, basically.

[bamber]

A lot of people have said that they were next to untidy people but everyone has basically said that there was no way that they were going to clean up other people's mess. This means that virtually everyone who has commented here is just one small step away from the selfishness of the abandoners themselves in my opinion.

Here's an idea, there is a rubbish problem at Glastonbury, take it upon yourself to spend ten minutes a day filling one black sack and one green sack with other people's rubbish. If just one in ten people did this then the site would be a whole lot cleaner right away. Let people know what you are doing and explain that you are doing it to differentiate yourself from the careless majority. I'm sure a significant minority would be persuaded to do the same themselves and the place would be significantly more pleasant. In a few unlikely situations, it might even make a few of the selfish people think for a moment about what they are doing.

This idea could be promoted via the program, posters, Worthy FM etc. and I'm sure it would make a difference.

The abandoned camping equipment is a different matter. I think this should be tackled by having minimum standards for camping equipment meaning that it was not permitted to sell sub standard equipment in the first place (possibly using the CE mark which is used on many other classes of goods). This would mean that container loads of cheap tents would never make the journey from China to Europe in the first place as it would be illegal to sell them. People would be forced to buy more expensive equipment that would be prohibitively expensive to dump, and if it was dumped would be worth while for someone else to claim.

[Fairies for Change]

I left a 9 man tent , 4 sleeping bags , 4 airbeds , 4 broken chairs & 10 pills and 20 beers for the person who had to clean it up , it aint all bad for the volunteers really . I will certainly do the same next year again.

[Storm_NL]

This means that virtually everyone who has commented here is just one small step away from the selfishness of the abandoners themselves in my opinion.

[bamber]

You're saying that people who take the time and effort to diligently take care of their own rubbish, keep their campsite tidy, and generally be good neighbours... are one step away from the people who throw stuff all over the place, don't give a sh!t about anyone else or the site, seem to go out of their way to drop rubbish anywhere but the bins, and leave a scene of devastation behind them.

Well, you're welcome to your opinion, no matter how wrong it may be.

[geordiegooner]

I left a 9 man tent , 4 sleeping bags , 4 airbeds , 4 broken chairs & 10 pills and 20 beers for the person who had to clean it up , it aint all bad for the volunteers really . I will certainly do the same next year again.

[cejx]

Yours was one of the posts I read that made me think. The phrase you used was that that there was no way you'd pick up anyone else's rubbish, or word's to that effect. Well you and others need to think about that. Ask yourself this -

"Why am I refusing to consider the possibility of picking up other people's rubbish?"

Let me know your answer.

[ukslim]

I quite routinely pick up litter on the street, carry it a few dozen metres, then put it in a bin.

But I like to think that's me being extra specially virtuous. I don't think it's anyone's duty (except those who are paid for it). And I don't think it excuses the bastards who dropped it in the first place.

Anecdote: I live near a canal bridge. I saw someone crossing the bridge opening an envelope, reading its contents, then stuffing the whole lot through the railings so it fell in the canal. I didn't say anything. I wish I had. What I wish I'd said is that he *knew* that littering was unacceptable, which is why he stuffed it through the railing instead of dropping it on the floor. So why did he think littering the canal was better? Especially since there was a bin just down the street.

Dammit, that was months ago, I still think I should have had a slanging match with him right there.

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