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I vote Download. NME headliners would be mental, but I don't think it's likely.

Just to add my two cents to the FNM reunion discussion, I was (before reunion) and still am an average fan I guess. I must admit I was kind of dissapointed to hear they were reforming at first, because I thought they were too cool for doing that and messing up and ruining what there once was, like many of these other reformations go... But the Reading show prooved they completly nailed it and all respect to them! A band like that could quite easily reform for a lot of money and put a half assed attempt in.. now the question is will they follow through? If the answer is yes and with some decent stuff then awesome! :D

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They have headlined hard rock / metal festivals around Europe, which Reading and Leeds is not. As I say to get a big enough crowd in to justify being a headliner they would have to bring in a different crowd to the one R&L typicaly attracts. I would also say all the bands you mentioned are bigger mainstream names than FNM and do apeal more to the typical R&L audience (I know I am stereotyping what an R&L audience is, but I am going on the kind of people I saw at this year's events, the adverts all around the sites, the magazines and websites tthat reviewed the festival and of course NME/Radio 1.) Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins may seem like cult bands for example but they both had recent top 5 albums and PJ sold out the 02 arena in a very short period of time.
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Its all about perspective. Up until earlier this year I wasn't a FNM fan - you were. Therfore you probably visited specific FNM websites, maybe belonged to a forum, certainly read the kind of websites or magazines that would discuss a FNM reunion and listened to radio stations that might play fnm. Whereas I didn't do any of those things so a fnm reunion was of my (and probably a large proportion of R&L audience's) radar.
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A lot of the heavier bands mentioned as being comparable to iron maiden have headlined the festival because they have sold more singles and albums.

faith no more 3 top 10 albums 4 top 20 singles

smashing pumpkins 5 top 10 albums, 6 top 20 singles

metallica 6 top 10 albums, 14 top 20 singles

pearl jam 6 top 10 albums, 7 top 20 albums

iron maiden 14 top 10 albums, 24 top 10 singles

The only healdiner I think whos success you could compare to faith no more are rage but rage are definelty better known these days and their songs get better coverage. To ask where they would play I think you have to ask is their populrity closest to pearl jam, pumpkins and metallica or nine inch nails, marilyn manson and slipknot and in my opinion theres no doubt they belong in the latter group.

I dont agree with using different european festivals to prove a point. Some bands like placebo are more popular in mainland europe then they are in the uk. I suspect faith no more are in the same group.

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QUOTE (pink_triangle @ Sep 7 2009, 10:24 PM)

If faith no more, lost prophets, kaiser chiefs and the prodigy cant headline a mainstream festival like reading/leeds theres no chance that ramstein could! It would be something a bit different though. Download would seem more likely.

Pnk _Triangle, we have simaliar minds

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I would not consider download a mainstream festival. There are hardly any bands on that bill who sell loads of records or get much airplay on national radio. Doesnt mean they arent good bands but the average person in this country wont have heard of most of the bands in download or be able to name a song.
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I would not consider download a mainstream festival. There are hardly any bands on that bill who sell loads of records or get much airplay on national radio. Doesnt mean they arent good bands but the average person in this country wont have heard of most of the bands in download or be able to name a song.
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Your right 80,000 is a lot of tickets to sell, theres defintely a market for metal but I still wouldnt say its a mainstream genre. You have to look a lot harder to find it than you would the more popular bands on the reading/leeds line up. You cant just switch on radio 1 in the day and hear the lastest offering from korn. Your right those bands have had comeerical success in the uk (although for about half of them you have to go quite a few years back) but you could write a list of bands who haave had comemrical success in v, t reading and leeds which would be both longer and more rectn.

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Your right 80,000 is a lot of tickets to sell, theres defintely a market for metal but I still wouldnt say its a mainstream genre. You have to look a lot harder to find it than you would the more popular bands on the reading/leeds line up. You cant just switch on radio 1 in the day and hear the lastest offering from korn. Your right those bands have had comeerical success in the uk (although for about half of them you have to go quite a few years back) but you could write a list of bands who haave had comemrical success in v, t reading and leeds which would be both longer and more rectn.
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