Brian L Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 It's time to address the way ticket touts abuse music fans by purchasing large quantities of festival/event tickets for the sole purpose of selling them on at hugely inflated prices, preying on music fans to make fast and easy money. We want to see a mark-up put on resold music event tickets capped at 15% of the face value of the ticket. Please help like minded music fans like yourself to have a fair chance in seeing your favourite bands play live by signing our petition. http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/cappingthetout/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JameSemajj Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) You know what, I hate the principle behind touts, but I would be attending Glastonbury next year (if the registration system wasn't inforced)... through touts, as I was at work during the release! I do hate them, don't get me wrong Edited October 11, 2009 by JameSemajj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benisright Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 You know what, I hate the principle behind touts, but I would be attending Glastonbury next year (if the registration system wasn't inforced)... through touts, as I was at work during the release! I do hate them, don't get me wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshuwarr Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) You know what, I hate the principle behind touts, but I would be attending Glastonbury next year (if the registration system wasn't inforced)... through touts, as I was at work during the release! I do hate them, don't get me wrong Edited October 12, 2009 by Joshuwarr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 The promoters won't make the efforts they were asked to make by the govt to hugely reduce touting - and so ultimately those promoters want touting to happen, and don't give a stuff about the effects on their customers. It's easy to avoid being ripped off by touts or the greedy promoters who don't take steps to stop touting: don't buy from touts, and don't buy the tickets of those greedy promoters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffoire Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 And be prepared. I'm sick of people waking up 3 months after the gig has sold out and then moaning about touts. If you wanna go the best chance you have its to be ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JameSemajj Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 ...yeah but then someone who did get a ticket wouldnt be able to go because they couldnt afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo_Spar Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Traditional street corner touts are not the problem, it's kids who always buy the maximum amount of tickets they're allowed to when a "hot ticket" goes on sale, solely to rip their fellow "fans" off by putting them on ebay the minute (usually about an hour after they go on sale) the show sells out. We have a new breed of tout. As Neil has said above, if there was a desire to beat touts by the promoters, they'd introduce a system akin to the Glastonbury one, which effectively eliminates touting. Promoters won't do it because they don't care who buys the tickets so long as they all sell in as short a time as possible. I won't sign any anti-touting petition as I don't have anything against street corner touts per se, I use them quite regularly and often get tickets cheaper than I'd have paid for them at the box office or on ebay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryclaireyfairy Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I'm talking on a personal level.. I would be attending Glastonbury next year if it wasn't for the registration system, because i'd be willing to pay the extra bit, especially if bands like Radiohead play.. And ill say it again, don't get me wrong, they are the scum of the earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benisright Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Traditional street corner touts are not the problem, it's kids who always buy the maximum amount of tickets they're allowed to when a "hot ticket" goes on sale, solely to rip their fellow "fans" off by putting them on ebay the minute (usually about an hour after they go on sale) the show sells out. We have a new breed of tout. As Neil has said above, if there was a desire to beat touts by the promoters, they'd introduce a system akin to the Glastonbury one, which effectively eliminates touting. Promoters won't do it because they don't care who buys the tickets so long as they all sell in as short a time as possible. I won't sign any anti-touting petition as I don't have anything against street corner touts per se, I use them quite regularly and often get tickets cheaper than I'd have paid for them at the box office or on ebay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffoire Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Traditional street corner touts are not the problem, it's kids who always buy the maximum amount of tickets they're allowed to when a "hot ticket" goes on sale, solely to rip their fellow "fans" off by putting them on ebay the minute (usually about an hour after they go on sale) the show sells out. We have a new breed of tout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Traditional street corner touts are not the problem, it's kids who always buy the maximum amount of tickets they're allowed to when a "hot ticket" goes on sale, solely to rip their fellow "fans" off by putting them on ebay the minute (usually about an hour after they go on sale) the show sells out. We have a new breed of tout. As Neil has said above, if there was a desire to beat touts by the promoters, they'd introduce a system akin to the Glastonbury one, which effectively eliminates touting. Promoters won't do it because they don't care who buys the tickets so long as they all sell in as short a time as possible. I won't sign any anti-touting petition as I don't have anything against street corner touts per se, I use them quite regularly and often get tickets cheaper than I'd have paid for them at the box office or on ebay... Nicely put Rich. Street touts - in general - actually work for the money they make. They stand on a street corner, sometimes in shitty weather, buying and selling tickets from & to the queue. They actually offer a service that benefits people. (Yes, there are also those that buy up blocks of tickets only to profit from. These don't benefit anyone, see below). The newer online tout offers no beneficial service. They deprive normal buyers of the chance to buy a ticket, and the only 'service' they offer is costing a buyer a higher price for a ticket than they'd otherwise pay. It's blatant profiteering - something that adds no value, to nobody's benefit. A law won't stop such profiteering, for as long as there's people who are prepared to buy from these scumbags. The answer to stopping this profiteering is in each of our hands; the question is: how much do you REALLY care about it? Do you care enough to NEVER buy from touts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul ™ Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 the on street touts, who are already doing something illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benisright Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 What are they doing illegally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Its one of those, you cant sell without a permit or licence or whatever. Im pretty sure a number of touts were arrested at reading festival this year. that's not 'illegal' as such - it's down to local bye-laws about street trading. I'm not sure if this year was the same as previous years (it's possible they've recently introduced bye-laws to stop touting, as happened around Glastonbury within the last ten years), but in previous years the arrests of "touts" wasn't for touting, but for selling fake tickets &/or wristbands which is covered by fraud laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Sadly we live in a society where its all about supply and demand. If someone can sell a product for x amount there shouldn't be alot to stop it. Yes its morally wrong but if theres a market for it then there not alot you can do about it look at the illegal drugs market. While you're right about supply and demand, you're wrong about there not being a lot that can be done about it. It's actually pretty easy..... Don't be one of the people creating the demand!!! If you don't buy from a tout they don't hold a valuable ticket in their hand, they hold a worthless bit of paper - and one that's cost them lots of money. If you ensure that they lose money then they won't do it again! While there's the occasional very special unrepeatable show such as the likes of the Led Zep show last year, there's an exceeding small amount of similar things that come around that won't come around again. If you miss out on, say, a Reading fest ticket, what's the problem really? There's nowt there that you couldn't see some other time and without having to shit on your own head as you would be doing if you bought from a tout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benisright Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 that's not 'illegal' as such - it's down to local bye-laws about street trading. I'm not sure if this year was the same as previous years (it's possible they've recently introduced bye-laws to stop touting, as happened around Glastonbury within the last ten years), but in previous years the arrests of "touts" wasn't for touting, but for selling fake tickets &/or wristbands which is covered by fraud laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul ™ Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Its one of those, you cant sell without a permit or licence or whatever. Im pretty sure a number of touts were arrested at reading festival this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryclaireyfairy Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) yeah, neil's right. i've never bought from a tout or sold on a ticket for more than face value plus p&p etc. if it ain't on scarlet mist or the like, i ain't going. Edited October 13, 2009 by scaryclaireyfairy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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