thomasowen Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 ...Well they have been anounced as the headliner for the NME awards tour and the headliner has headlined the NME stage every year for the past 5 (Glasvegas, The Cribs, Klaxons, Maximo Park, Bloc Party). This is a very unusual lineup for the tour which usualy has newer artists, I doubt Maccabees are anywhere near big enough to headline the tent next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylishkids Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I thought it was weird when the cribs headlined in 08 after having 3 albums out and I think it is just a case of theres not enough new bands coming through that are big enough to headline the tour. The biggest new bands that have come through in the past year in the nme scene are florence and White lies I'd say who have played it already and to continue the tour they have had to go with older bands (album number terms) and the maccabees. What I do find strange about it as well is the fact that nme have also gone for the big pink and bombay bicycle club. They tend to go for bands who will generally have albums out at the time of the tour or afterwards. This means that they will have a better chance of been picked up by the media and especially radio 1 and therefore the tour and magazine will gain better sales with new upcoming bands with hype surrounding them been associated with the nme tour. I'd struggle to see why radio 1 would now suddenly start playing the big pink and bombay after their albums have already been released for a bit, especially considering when the tour comes round and there would have been a few singles from the album already released. It smacks of desperation on nme's part and I think this will be one of the lowest selling tours they've done in a while and exposure for the mag limited, which tbh is not a bad thing. As for the Maccabees headlining the radio 1 tent, I would presume that the nme tour will have a contract with the fest for one of the bands to headline. You've said that it has happened for the past 5 years and a quick check at 05 and 04 and I see its happened there too. It's also happened with every act playing the tour and I'm almost certain that yeah it'll be in the contract. As if any of the bands will be bigger to headline the radio1/nme tent, I very much doubt it. I don't think that they thought glasvegas were big enough to headline it this year and therefore they went for a double headline act to not brake this presumed contract and I think they might have to do the same this year tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearing_aid Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) Think this is just a sign of how things have been going for the past few years. The 'Indie' boom is dying out. There haven't been many NME type indie bands to become big for a while. Glasvegas and maybe White Lies are the only ones that come to mind and Glasvegas could only co headline. Bands like Klaxons, The View, Maximo Park, Bloc Party and Kasabian all had the tent rammed and were doing well on the Radio. All of those have then gone onto bigger things. These type of bands just aren't really breaking through anymore. Also its probably not a total coincidence that apparently NME is changing at the moment. I've not read it myself but I've heard it has improved since the new editor took over. I'm sure the old editor, Conor what his name, realised that the indie thing the NME has relied on for the past 5 years is dying out and it was a good time for him to jump ship. Edited November 10, 2009 by hearing_aid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasowen Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 I thought it was weird when the cribs headlined in 08 after having 3 albums out and I think it is just a case of theres not enough new bands coming through that are big enough to headline the tour. The biggest new bands that have come through in the past year in the nme scene are florence and White lies I'd say who have played it already and to continue the tour they have had to go with older bands (album number terms) and the maccabees. What I do find strange about it as well is the fact that nme have also gone for the big pink and bombay bicycle club. They tend to go for bands who will generally have albums out at the time of the tour or afterwards. This means that they will have a better chance of been picked up by the media and especially radio 1 and therefore the tour and magazine will gain better sales with new upcoming bands with hype surrounding them been associated with the nme tour. I'd struggle to see why radio 1 would now suddenly start playing the big pink and bombay after their albums have already been released for a bit, especially considering when the tour comes round and there would have been a few singles from the album already released. It smacks of desperation on nme's part and I think this will be one of the lowest selling tours they've done in a while and exposure for the mag limited, which tbh is not a bad thing. As for the Maccabees headlining the radio 1 tent, I would presume that the nme tour will have a contract with the fest for one of the bands to headline. You've said that it has happened for the past 5 years and a quick check at 05 and 04 and I see its happened there too. It's also happened with every act playing the tour and I'm almost certain that yeah it'll be in the contract. As if any of the bands will be bigger to headline the radio1/nme tent, I very much doubt it. I don't think that they thought glasvegas were big enough to headline it this year and therefore they went for a double headline act to not brake this presumed contract and I think they might have to do the same this year tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium05 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) I'm hoping the festival has reached the point where such second rate no hopers won't be trusted with such an important slot... Then again I'm hoping for at least 2 mainstage headliners I like and feel I may be out of luck there too! Besides. "Indie"'s dead! Nu-Metal's back! Next years main headliners will be Slipknot, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park with Korn, Ill Nino and Soil headlining the second. That's facts right there. Edited November 10, 2009 by Lithium05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Besides. "Indie"'s dead! Nu-Metal's back! Next years main headliners will be Slipknot, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park with Korn, Ill Nino and Soil headlining the second. That's facts right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Think this is just a sign of how things have been going for the past few years. The 'Indie' boom is dying out. There haven't been many NME type indie bands to become big for a while. Glasvegas and maybe White Lies are the only ones that come to mind and Glasvegas could only co headline. Bands like Klaxons, The View, Maximo Park, Bloc Party and Kasabian all had the tent rammed and were doing well on the Radio. All of those have then gone onto bigger things. These type of bands just aren't really breaking through anymore. Also its probably not a total coincidence that apparently NME is changing at the moment. I've not read it myself but I've heard it has improved since the new editor took over. I'm sure the old editor, Conor what his name, realised that the indie thing the NME has relied on for the past 5 years is dying out and it was a good time for him to jump ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Actually most of the headliners of the Shockwaves tour over the last few years have been slightly past it by the time Reading & Leeds happens: 2007 - The Automatic 2008 - The Cribs 2009 - Glasvegas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) Think this is just a sign of how things have been going for the past few years. The 'Indie' boom is dying out. There haven't been many NME type indie bands to become big for a while. Glasvegas and maybe White Lies are the only ones that come to mind and Glasvegas could only co headline. Bands like Klaxons, The View, Maximo Park, Bloc Party and Kasabian all had the tent rammed and were doing well on the Radio. All of those have then gone onto bigger things. These type of bands just aren't really breaking through anymore. Also its probably not a total coincidence that apparently NME is changing at the moment. I've not read it myself but I've heard it has improved since the new editor took over. I'm sure the old editor, Conor what his name, realised that the indie thing the NME has relied on for the past 5 years is dying out and it was a good time for him to jump ship. Edited November 10, 2009 by 5co77ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearing_aid Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Surely it's because most people with a music brain now read Uncut? Although i agree with you, people have woken up to the Indie Landfill scene, trouble is the NME seem to now be championing 'nu folk landfill'. The NME has always relied on indie that's why it's not sure where it's going these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 The NME tour this year is the poorest I've ever seen and if any of those acts headline the NME stage at R & L it'll be a bad joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltedwelly Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 it were killers who headlined in 2005, bloc party were 3rd below futureheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spwan-of-the-devil Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 Noooooo!!!!! Let's hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Although the Maccabees was pretty full this year at Leeds , seemed to get more than some of the higher up acts during the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5co77ie Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I find Uncut pretty bad as well. I don't even think its that people have 'woken up' to it, just its trend has passed, people are moving on to new things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly!olly!olly! Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Could easily see the Maccabees headline NME next year- theyre fanbase is getting quite huge nowadays, especially with the reading/leeds crowd. Putting them up against a heavier main stage act would work well. Glasvegas were never going to be big enough to co-headline the tent this year, it was completely deserted when I wandered over after the prodigy. People lying down in the front half of the tent. By the time reading/leeds came around Glasvegas were probably the smallest band of the 4 on the tour. I dont think headlining the NME tour means maccabees will headline but I reckon they will on the size of their fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinthecasbah Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Glasvegas were never going to be big enough to co-headline the tent this year, it was completely deserted when I wandered over after the prodigy. People lying down in the front half of the tent. By the time reading/leeds came around Glasvegas were probably the smallest band of the 4 on the tour. I dont think headlining the NME tour means maccabees will headline but I reckon they will on the size of their fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 The music scene that the NME Tour pushes - mostly chart-friendly indie-pop bands - has shrunk considerably and so the likelihood of getting an equivalent of We Are Scientists, Kaiser Chiefs, The Futureheads, Mystery Jets, Bloc Party, Maxïmo Park, The Killers and Arctic Monkeys all within two years is highly unlikely to happen in the near future, if ever again. I think this year (as in, Glasvegas headlining) did pretty well to nail down one massive mainstream success (Florence), a sleeper hit band who have slowly grown in stature to become pretty big (Friendly Fires) and an instant indie smash (White Lies). It is unfortunate that the headliners are likely the smallest band now out of the four but there we go. Bombay Bicycle Club second-headlining baffles me. The Big Pink & The Drums were likely choices, but I thought NME would go with Vampire Weekend to headline and Temper Trap or Wild Beasts for second. That would have been quite a good tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieuphoria Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Besides. "Indie"'s dead! Nu-Metal's back! Next years main headliners will be Slipknot, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park with Korn, Ill Nino and Soil headlining the second. That's facts right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin88 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I heard one of the biggest crowds at the NME stage this year, so I wouldn't be too surprised. They're also bigger than The Cribs and Glasvegas were when they were headlining the NME Tour. You've got to remember that they sold out the Brixton Academy without too many problems. Anyway, I'd be really happy for them. They're one of my favourite bands, they're a decent live act and they've got the tunes to fill a set like that. Also, got to add that they've been top blokes when I've met them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigshair123 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 the Maccabees are not bigger then the Cribs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 the Maccabees are not bigger then the Cribs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin88 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Just as big at least as a live act. The Cribs haven't sold out Brixton yet, so I'll wait until they do then judge it by that. Anyway, I still can't see them headlining the NME stage. I wouldn't be surprised to see them get a spot on the Main Stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Fatality Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 The Cribs haven't sold out Brixton yet, so I'll wait until they do then judge it by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasowen Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 On the other hand... Maccabees haven't drawn the attention of one of The Smiths yet to the point of them joining the band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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