rage against the machine for christmas no1!

[5co77ie]

Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid (3.51m) 1984/5

Mary's Boy Child - Oh My Lord (medley) Boney M (1.79m) 1978

Hallelujah - Alexandra Burke (1.01m) 2008

Edited December 16, 2009 by 5co77ie

[swede]

or how bout less extreme than that but still practice what they preach. remember sleep now in the fire video? yet they come back on a tour, with no plans to be a writing band, just for the money.

and perhaps not whoring his image to one of the biggest computer games in the world.

Edited December 16, 2009 by swede

[5co77ie]

Rage are at #1 today with 175,163 sales, Joe at #2 with 109,726 sales

[Kowalski]

Hallelujah - Alexandra Burke (1.01m) 2008

[5co77ie]

Who? Was this a Happy Mondays cover?

[rabid]

How long til X Factor Hero? And would gamers rush out to buy it?

[Lithium05]

and the re-uniting for cash?

[ampersand]

Surprised you need to read some record sales to reach that conclusion.

[ampersand]

Blimey - that tells you something about the state of sales of the charts anyway, Cowell's probably instigated the whole thing to shift a few records. I wonder what impact having no Woolworths has made?

[Wooderson]

And it is about music. Theres only so much promotion to go round, this little bollox is signed to Sony now, casting a shadow over all the hard working touring bands that they have, a lot who we don’t know. They are being suppressed by Cowell and his greed.

[ampersand]

The record industry is on life support mate. Even the biggest bands (never mind "hard working touring bands") arent generating the same money they used to on record sales. Sony can only keep paying these "bands" youre talking about because of things like the XFactor. Take away that revenue stream and you think these bands will automatically become massive? Kidding me. All those bands (snow patrol/keane/coldplay) have been done to death. Theyve sold their millions. The likes of DM Stilth's "Heavy Ghost" which im listening to at the moment is not gonna be a mega seller in the absence of the distraction/financial demands of the Xfactor with record company execs. Their job is to make money. They don't care how they do it. Thus Snow Patrol have sold 10 million albums.

- - -

20 million people watched the XFactor on Saturday night. Clearly the UK is interested in the show.

This interest had nowt to do with Cowell's greed chief. Had all to do with a TV behemoth that captures the imagination of over a 1/3 of the UK population. Taps into something common in people.

This is not an interest in music. The show is not a music show. If things worked the way you say it Jools Holland would be prime time on a Saturday evening. Its not. Its a niche.

[wee_insomniac]

They're also pretty good fun - relying on their popularity by incporporating songs the gamer has a liking of.

How long til X Factor Hero? And would gamers rush out to buy it?

[Tugger2k]

The record industry is on life support mate. Even the biggest bands (never mind "hard working touring bands") arent generating the same money they used to on record sales. Sony can only keep paying these "bands" youre talking about because of things like the XFactor. Take away that revenue stream and you think these bands will automatically become massive? Kidding me. All those bands (snow patrol/keane/coldplay) have been done to death. Theyve sold their millions. The likes of DM Stilth's "Heavy Ghost" which im listening to at the moment is not gonna be a mega seller in the absence of the distraction/financial demands of the Xfactor with record company execs. Their job is to make money. They don't care how they do it. Thus Snow Patrol have sold 10 million albums.

- - -

20 million people watched the XFactor on Saturday night. Clearly the UK is interested in the show.

This interest had nowt to do with Cowell's greed chief. Had all to do with a TV behemoth that captures the imagination of over a 1/3 of the UK population. Taps into something common in people.

This is not an interest in music. The show is not a music show. If things worked the way you say it Jools Holland would be prime time on a Saturday evening. Its not. Its a niche.

[ampersand]

Band Hero which appeals to X Factor types... Guitar hero, without the guitar element...

[ampersand]

music and performance was here long before the advent of 'selling' music and it will be here long after the acts that ampersand loves so much are consigned to 'intriguing mistakes' of history

[glastofun]

The record industry is on life support mate. Even the biggest bands (never mind "hard working touring bands") arent generating the same money they used to on record sales. Sony can only keep paying these "bands" youre talking about because of things like the XFactor. Take away that revenue stream and you think these bands will automatically become massive? Kidding me. All those bands (snow patrol/keane/coldplay) have been done to death. Theyve sold their millions. The likes of DM Stilth's "Heavy Ghost" which im listening to at the moment is not gonna be a mega seller in the absence of the distraction/financial demands of the Xfactor with record company execs. Their job is to make money. They don't care how they do it. Thus Snow Patrol have sold 10 million albums.

- - -

20 million people watched the XFactor on Saturday night. Clearly the UK is interested in the show.

This interest had nowt to do with Cowell's greed chief. Had all to do with a TV behemoth that captures the imagination of over a 1/3 of the UK population. Taps into something common in people.

This is not an interest in music. The show is not a music show. If things worked the way you say it Jools Holland would be prime time on a Saturday evening. Its not. Its a niche.

[5co77ie]

RATM are the new odds-on (8/11) favourites to be crowned Christmas number one, according to Ladbrokes.

[ampersand]

RATM are the new odds-on (8/11) favourites to be crowned Christmas number one, according to Ladbrokes.

[The Nal]

Sony can only keep paying these "bands" youre talking about because of things like the XFactor. Take away that revenue stream and you think these bands will automatically become massive? Kidding me.

[smog]

*goes to put money on joe*

[ampersand]

hah yeah I was thinking that. Only evens though so not worth it.

saying that though I hope Rage does get to the top spot. Id rather be listening to Killing in the Name on every radio stn over the Xmas period that shite from X Factor

[Purple Monkey]

If you want the world to be a better place, just don't pay attention to the charts. It really is that simple. This Killing In The Name phenomenon has been pretty interesting, in that I've never really seen so many people completely miss the mark.

If people want to stick it to Simon Cowell then not buying into his speciality - seasonal chart-busting pop songs, would be a start. That means ignorring it, not putting importance in it, not fuelling that particular ugly aspect of the industry with even more fire. It's adding legitimacy to the market in which Cowell works. If people really want to end that, they have to burn the market down, not prop it up with an alternative.

Quantifying art with a hierarchy like a pop chart unravels it, it ceases to be art in almost every way once that becomes it's chief goal. It just becomes a list of stuff that people "like an' that" and you don't belong if you haven't got this latest thing.

The best form of protest is to not buy into anything at face value, not to buy into Christmas as a commercial product, that's where I'd personally start if I really wanted to hit Cowell where it hurt, because then his environment would collapse. But then people seem to be unable to question their actions and motivations because that could lead to some actual change in the world, and that's far too dangerous and scary.

Cowell must be laughing his arse off to be honest. He's helped reduce people's brains to such mushy, lazy, apathetic goo that even when they "fight back", they still play right into his hands.

Edited December 16, 2009 by Purple Monkey

[dakyras]

That lad is suffering with the whole RATM campaign when it should be Cowell directly. I doubt anyone has a problem with the wee Geordie singin' an aul song, right? Think he's a decent enough singer too to be fair to him. Tis not his fault he's on a show that übergeeks like you and I despise Ollan.

On this point alone I agree with Cowell. It is mean spirited to try to steal this kids thunder. I'd much prefer if someone took on Westlife or summat.

To paraphrase Walter Sobchak - "Now thats a worthy adversary."

[ampersand]

He won a competition ffs. He wasted a year of his life to become Simon Cowell's karaoke bitch. I hope he gets dropped immediately after this single. He is not talented.

[Kowalski]

yeah, only evens but for me its a dead cert. so why no